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Old 06-05-2011, 08:53 AM
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Thanks for the additional info, Douglas. One difference for Mendota from your drawing is that, based on the photo, Mendota's gun carriages pivoted at the trailing end.

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Old 06-05-2011, 10:47 AM
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Thanks for the additional info, Douglas. One difference for Mendota from your drawing is that, based on the photo, Mendota's gun carriages pivoted at the trailing end.

Don
That certainly makes sense. Otherwise it would be rolling around the deck in any kind of sea. These carriages usually had pins or pegs to lock them in position as well. The gun recoils on the carriage so the pins / pegs were pretty heavy duty and often fit through holes in the carriage into holes in the track.
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Old 06-05-2011, 02:04 PM
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Re: The gun position
The problem is that with the model, the gun mount as built, should be pointing out a gun port on one side or the other. When not in use, the gun would be stored, facing forward, but at the back end of the pivot mount. In effect, reverse the way the gun is facing, but make no other change to its location. Make it look like it has recoiled. That's where it was stored. I've seen multiple pictures of pivot guns stored that way, and you can find one here from the Wikipedia entry here on the USS Kearsarge.

A pivot mount could be pivoted on either end, but in use, the end of the frame where the gun was located did not swing - it was the fulcrum. The other end (which was infinitely lighter) was swung and latched to the pivot hook built into the sill below the gun port. Then the gun carriage was rolled to the front end of the frame so that the barrel would protrude through the gun port. On firing, the weapon recoiled to the rear of the frame. To see how it looked when swung to a port, see the image of the USS Kearsarge's 11" pivot guns here.

The after gun should be the same way. When stored, the mount and barrel should face aft, but from the "recoiled" position. The frame of the pivot should be visible below the gun barrel and aft.

I doubt that Magnus made a mistake - I suspect he intended the guns to be shown in a fighting position protruding through a port.

Personally, I'm not planning to rig the boarding nets when I do this model, but I like the way that they have come out on yours.
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Old 06-09-2011, 03:27 PM
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Mike,
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Thank you for your attention!

Don,
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Thank you for your help. Very detailed explanation.

To continue building on weekends!
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Old 06-17-2011, 11:29 AM
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Hello everyone!

I went to the building, rigging, lifeboats, cranes, anchor.
The guns were so recorded.
The anchor is a good place?
Thank you for your comments.
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Old 06-17-2011, 12:38 PM
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Hello Joe,
Your ship is beautiful.
I think your work on the rigging, cranes and lifeboats is outstanding.
Mike
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Old 06-17-2011, 09:21 PM
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Hi Joe,

A handsome ship! Have you made any plans for how you will display the finished model?

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Old 06-18-2011, 11:23 AM
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Hello Mike - thanks

Hi Greg - I just tilt the board and the paint is left.
I do not do anything else on the ship.

Later there will be a harbor diorama ...
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:47 PM
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Harbor diorama will add spice to your beautiful ship for sure
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Old 06-19-2011, 12:46 PM
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Hello I am looking forward to see your work complete!

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