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Old 03-08-2009, 08:01 PM
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Try this - I think it is the one you are looking for...

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Old 03-08-2009, 09:14 PM
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Thanks Ron, and yes that is the one.

Look under Ship Accessories and you will find them in amongst all the barrel sets Rick.

While I watched a movie on the 'puter, I cut out all the required pieces for the funnel inner parts, slotted them out and glued them together to arrived at this result. Then came another one of those "Gotcha" moments that I am discovering in this particular kit. It is not exactly insurmountable, they do furnish the part and after looking over the pages and not being able to spot the part under that number, it was fairly obvious which part it would have to be. At any rate here is my beginning funnel assembly, as you can tell it is going to be sort of a project to get everything aligned and attatched properly, but then once accomplished it should be pretty interesting.



When I checked the pictograph instructions, they call for a part designated as #45f to be stuck atop the whole thing. I chased around the parts pages looking and much to my surprise, ain't no such critter. There is a #45a and b, these make up a box structure that is to be mounted to the rear of the bridge structure. But that is about it for the #45 on the parts sheets. Looking about I did find a part number 46m which is an oblong shape that is the same size and shape of part F16 that it is supposed to be mated to and is a lovely shade of flat black to represent the interior of the funnel.



So this is just another one of those little things that you get to figure out on this particular kit, not a big deal, just a little confusion with the number call outs. I have seen the same thing with styrene kits before so it isn't like it is a big problem, just a bit of editorial type stuff that got overlooked before it went to the publishers.
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Old 03-09-2009, 03:13 PM
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Jay -- Lucky for the rest of us that we have you as the lead scout to discover these things and figure out the solution before we others try our hand!

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Old 03-09-2009, 08:21 PM
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Thanks Jay and Old Troll for the site, placed a order for all the barrel sets and a few other goodies.:D Jay I have learned a great deal watching your build, you point out the areas that require attention. When building one of these 3D puzzles, it sure helps to know what you have ahead of you. I am laying out the frame work for the INJ Yubari and because of another build thread and mine turned out the same while using the laser cut frame, the upper deck is 1/4" longer than the bottom/hull resulting in a gap that other than trimming down can not be fixed???? The problem can however be over came, if you build the kit as a waterline. Of which is likely what I will do. To much invested now to just put away. This was the kit I purchased other detail parts for to kit bash. I like a ship built full hull, but I do have several kits that are waterline as well and this is what I learned on while in Germany. So the waterline build does not turn the juices off. Rick
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Old 03-09-2009, 08:58 PM
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HI Don and Rick,

Yeah, nothing like being the point man and getting to step on all the land mines first! :D

I have discovered that this one has a few other little carbunkles here and there, nothing that can't be overcome, just little oddities that were overlooked. So I will press on and chalk it up to a first time experience with a card model. It is a fascinating way to construct a model and being a former Recon Marine, our motto has always been "adapt and overcome".

Rick, that is a bummer, but I can see how waterlining it will let you get over that 1/4 inch difference. Much easier to stretch it out a little that way without getting too crazed. Besides, now you can stretch those diorama muscles and put it on a base with some water.
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Hi All,

Happy New Year!!!

I have decided to get back to this one, the very first card model that I started building when I got into this angle of the hobby. I say this angle as I have been a styrene builder since I was too young to think about it, graduated to resin as a specialist accessory for some other models and have even made stuff from metals, wood and all sorts of other media.

I saved the ship kit that I started with, it languished atop a tall case gathering dust as I learned some chops on other simpler card model kits and with the completion of my latest destroyer build, the USS Selfridge, I want to get back into one of the prettiest IJN Destroyer Classes, the Akizuki. So bear with me as I get a few things lined up on this one and as soon as I have something worth while to add a photo or two, I shall.

I have acquired the ship specific Kagero Super Drawing in 3D book to help me in my detailing efforts. I also have the appropriate brass main gun barrel set and the proper secondary photo etched brass weapons sets for it. Not to mention the talents of many of the members of this forum to inspire me and point the way to add some more detailing to her.
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Hi All,

I drug this one off the top shelf where it had languished for a few years, just a hull with a forward deck and a deck house. The hull work was pretty good as was the hull plating so no need to redo any of that work. I did replace the forward deck house though. After building more than a couple of ships and a few aircraft, I had picked up a few things about building card models.

I started off by adding the portholes to the deck house by punching them out and then backing the open spaces with some black card. I added a copper ring and a quarter circle copper section to the outside edge of each to represent the porthole hardware. I also added the tiny speaker cones that went below each of the side lights and in front of the deck house structure. I also used some smaller diameter copper wire to act as the wiring going to the ones on the sides. This was all painted over with some Model Master Acryl Kure Naval Gray, a perfect match for the printed color.

The top of the roof section got a little more attention to detail by adding a second section with some slightly undercut pieces in the center of that second section to allow it to have a domed appearance instead of dead flat look once glued in position. I added the other little detail parts and a copper wire antenna. I built up the range finder that dominates the top of deck house and then touched up all the colors of wire with the Acryl paint. It looks a bit more detailed than the original effort did and most of these extra details were picked out looking over the Kagero 3D book on the Akizuki. This shows off all of the detailing that the original kit just does not have. Not saying the kit is lacking, the extra detailing is pretty much up to the individual modeler. Finished as is, the model is just fine but it can be improved upon with some extra references. Joe Ed Lowe's 3D website on the Steel Navy site is another good place to look for some extra assistance.

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Here is where I am at with my little project for the moment.



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Thanks Don,

It has been a long time in coming for me. Looking at this one sitting atop the tallest book case in my hobby room kept taunting me to get back to business with her. But the time away allowed me to hone my skill set a bit so that I can do the work with a bit more ability than what I would have been able to in the beginning.

I have managed to get her props and rudder back under her aft end, ran around the perimeter of the deck with a second layer of the very edges that show where the stiles for the railings were to have gone (she will be getting laser cut paper railings) and a few other little things that I will post up with a photo or two later on. While she is one of the older models in Answers' line up, she does have a very nice detail level and with the aid of the Kagero 3D Book on the ship as well as a couple of nicely built models, Nichimo and Answer 1/200 scale kits, to help me in my search for detail ideas I am going to try and do a good job on her.
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Hi All,

I had some fun doing a little retrofitting on my ship. The edges got a second copy of the deck printed out on 110 pound card stock, clipped out and then added over the original decks. These were all edge colored before being added and then I placed the rear set of bollards and aft deck plating. I also clipped out the turret mounting plates and the torpedo mount plate, edge colored these and then glued them down.



I also started working on the complicated stack structure that goes amid ships. What you see is just the basic structure, there is a whole lot of detailing that goes on there in addition to what I have done so far. The framework that is underneath all of it is just like the ships hull structure and seen in an earlier posting. It isn't even glued down yet, just placed there for the photo. With all the stuff that needs to go on there it is easier to leave it unattached at this point. I did paint over the very forward part of the stack as it is one of those fan cut jointed areas like the pointed nose of an aircraft or missile. They never come out looking very realistic unless some help is given, in this case a couple of coats of Alene's Tacky Glue painted on and allowed to dry then a coat of MM Acryl Kure Gray. That helps to take out all of those edges and smoothing things out.

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