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Old 02-05-2017, 10:49 AM
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jeff

there are good plans and references available now for a model, much more than when i started this a couple of years ago
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Old 02-05-2017, 03:06 PM
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Friso

Many 'moons' ago I started another kit of a statenjacht, Friese Statenjacht Friso. Never finished it...

This is how far it got:



If interested I know of available kits.
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Old 02-05-2017, 03:30 PM
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Beautiful work Willem. Think you should finish it up.
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Old 02-05-2017, 10:30 PM
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back to the books

there is a side view of the mast step in the plans, but nothing to say how wide it is

the best reference i can find is in the Wittsen book, and looks like it should be more or less square

i fitted the first two cross pieces (and thinned them down a little, since they are rectangular), then i cut away the jig

i found the distances for the uprights that support the cross beams, and used the plan pieces to mark their locations
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Old 02-05-2017, 10:38 PM
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more research convince me that

the lengthwise uprights were not notched around the cross pieces, but just butted up against them to support them

as Ab says, all the cross pieces in the middle section sit right on the keelson... so i marked their places and removed the jig for that section
then i cut the supporting uprights (just for one side, i cheated) and then cut out a base board for the planks for the first little deck. I find that
having a base make the planking much easier to arrange.. i just subtract the thickness of the base from the planks. for me, you still need to cut out the individual planks to make them look "plank like". i punched little holes for the nails and darkened them with a pencil point after painting

next come the cross beams for the section that goes back to the step block

i realize the whole bottom of the ship will be planked over... it was fun to make... but i think at this point i'd rather have the full floor for the stove and interiors of the cabins
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Old 02-05-2017, 10:45 PM
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the stove

anyone have any ideas on whether the stove was cast iron set on brickwork, or a brick hearth ?
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Old 02-06-2017, 08:09 AM
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As far as I know it usually was a copper of brass plated box filled with brickwork.
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Old 02-06-2017, 10:31 PM
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thanks, i felt a little silly

since i found the photo in the book.... actually, the book as two photos... it looks like there were 2 hearths going up to a single chimney, one facing forwards in a sleeping room, and the other facing stearnwards into a different and more ornate room

i have been having fun translating the dutch terms on the plan

would the powder have been stored in the magazine in little barrels ?, since the power magazine is the first thing to build in the bow

there is such a warren of little rooms that i am going to have to leave half of the deck unplanked if people are to see them

you can see the pictures here of the 2 "fireplaces", the ornamental one in green and the much wider one (in yellow) that faces forward into the sleeping cabin

also a picture that shows the construction of the "walls" of the cabins, some square uprights faced with boards

there are also a couple of pictures of making the second section of deck, which is what the hearth will rest on
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Old 02-07-2017, 01:38 AM
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Don't feel silly. It's rather complicated stuff. If you need any help with the terminology, just yell.

I'm not sure if a Statenjacht had a powder room. The space in the bow you mean was originally used as cable tier, but it was used for storing the diesel engine now. So power room is a good, but a-historic term.

Funny to see back the drawing on your fifth photograph. I made that about 30 years ago.:-) How time flies...
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Old 02-08-2017, 07:19 PM
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thanks ab

some of the translations are pretty funny... i'll have to make a list of the ones that seem odd

i decided the way thru the confusion of the interior was to first put in the beams that support the deck

these were cut straight... and then "bent" by hand to match the curve they needed (unlike the real thing i did not have to heat them over a fire )
i cut some templates for the 6 main frames and used those to glue some blocks to the futtocks
i was then able to shape the beams and glue them in and against the blocks
because the "bending" kinks the paper a little i had to sand down the inside surfaces before painting them
i think all the walls and beams will have to be installed from the bow working backwards
here you can see the outline of the cabinets at the bow
i made a template of the upper deck beams and cut them out to see if there would be enough visiblity thru them
on the side of the hull where i will omit the deck planking... it looks like there will be
so i will be leaving the deck planking off the left side... so people can look down into the compartments

if any one knows of pictures of the interior rooms (there are some in the book and some on the internet... but they tend to be mostly of the bigger more impressive rooms... they would be really helpful
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