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Old 04-03-2017, 05:43 PM
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elliot

yep, tried that
the railings are so tiny and so light, that just getting them and keeping them in position is a chore...on paper its easier to hold them in place
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Old 04-04-2017, 01:19 PM
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but its going nicely
lessons learned from years of modeling ...
roll small parts before cutting them to size
Doh! I was just kicking myself for not being able to keep the paper straight as I rolled some pedestals for the stand of my skipjack.

So here's a new pearl of paper wisdom: Roll long, cut short.

I'm watching your railings, too. That's one of the next things to do and I'm dreading it.

What is this 'REALLY old model'? Looks like some type of tramp steamer to me.

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Old 04-06-2017, 11:58 AM
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its a german model of a light house ship

railings are indeed a challenge

here is a round set at the top of one of the masts
i leave some extra paper at the top, because i glue the uprights just to the "extra" paper and
put no glue on the actual upright
i tried bending bamboo around the shape... but it remained to "springy" to be controlled
so i went with tiny strips of paper
(the disadvantage being that they bend from upright to upright and are not really round)
then the delicate matter of separating the railing from the mold
and gluing it to its base (first upside down....:< and then reversed to be correct)
and gluing the base to its mast
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Old 04-06-2017, 12:24 PM
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Hi Ken,

nice to see this old classic model from the famous Wilhelmshavener Modelle. At the moment I am also building a model of that publisher, pictures will follow.

I have never seen a technique like this to make railings by your own. It`s really great work! The light house ship is going to be a great model while the UTRECHT is going to be really phantatstic!
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Old 04-06-2017, 09:26 PM
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thanks

here's more on the railings
these are for the platform on the rear crane
you can't put the uprights in on all the pieces, because you don't want to double them up on corners
i find it easier to glue one end of the railings in place (cutting them a little long)
let them dry a few minutes, then cut them off to size
then put in the next upright, they are small enough that which side of the line you cut on matters
once they are glued on i glued the platform on the crane and then painted the railing white
i had to put a couple of little pieces of bamboo in the boom of the crane to stiffen it
i also used bamboo "cable" to detail the crane
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Old 04-07-2017, 10:48 AM
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The crane is also convincing. I will follow your further steps!
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Old 04-18-2017, 10:03 PM
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more raillings

a lot to learn about bamboo

i usually build several sections at once... so i can let one dry while i work on the other
to build a square railing, i cut the paper patterns and build them "inside out", making them a little smaller
so that the rails will still glue onto the deck

even though my results are not surgical, i like the look of them
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Old 04-19-2017, 08:48 AM
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That is very intricate work. Is there any advantage to using bamboo rather than glue stiffened thread?
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Old 04-19-2017, 11:15 AM
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glue stiffened thread might be better

i just started using bamboo for my Warspite and am still working on it

if you wanted to get fancy glue stiffened thread would let you put a little "hang" when the "railing" is actually chain
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Old 04-19-2017, 10:07 PM
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a little work, a few laughs

part of what i'm doing is characterized by a resolution to avoid crazy glue and soldering fumes

i'm working on 2 sets of railings at once... let the glue dry a little
it looks like a cow pen, but its the interior "mold" for the railings around the main cabin
when the paper is removed the built of railings are "flexible"
this is the railings for a platform on the rear mast... not as neat as i wanted
but live and learn
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