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Old 09-29-2018, 07:17 PM
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Thanks Elliott, Metal is an interesting change from wood and paper.
The tops on these ships had metal bars to anchor the topmast shrouds.
The sketch in the first pic shows them.
I am trying to replicate them with 1mm brass tube that has small wire loops pushed
into the ends. They are way too big in scale but maybe will look OK from a distance.
The last 3 pics are the topgallant shrouds and the whole mast.


The plans and pictures of the ship clearly show that dead-eyes were not used on
the topmast shrouds, even though they are used on the main shrouds. It is not
clear what was used, maybe rigging screws (turnbuckles). That's too much realism.
I am going to just rig them directly but have run out of rope so am dead in the water.
I always run out of stuff on the weekends.
cheers Jim
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Old 09-30-2018, 12:18 PM
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.......I am trying to replicate them with 1mm brass tube that has small wire loops pushed into the ends. They are way too big in scale but maybe will look OK from a distance.
They may be out of scale but with all else that's going on rigging-wise I'll bet most folks won't notice. If they do just tell them that the Conrad was built during a time of change and you're documenting an experimental rig.

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.......It is not clear what was used, maybe rigging screws (turnbuckles). That's too much realism.
To me, the mark of a good modeler is knowing when to say that's enought, imho.

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.......I always run out of stuff on the weekends.
Ah the curse of every modeler.

Here's a question for you Jim; I really don't know the answer. If someone had to go above the topmast crosstrees, for whatever reason, how did they go up without ratlines? Did they just shinny up the topmast?
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Old 09-30-2018, 05:42 PM
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hi Elliott,
I had completely forgotten about ratlines on the topgallant shrouds.
Consulting Underhill's book he says that ships of this period had ratlines there but the
sailors still had to shinny to get to the royals.
However his plans and ship pictures do not show them on this ship.
This is a surprise as one would assume that a training ship would be more safety conscious.
One way to get up is to hang over the topgallant yard and be hoisted up with the sail.
This requiring the rest of the crew to do more work. Never popular thing.
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Old 09-30-2018, 05:46 PM
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hi again,
A better look at the pictures shows a rope ladder on the back of the spar.
Underhill also mentions these in his book. One for the students.
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Old 10-27-2018, 09:09 PM
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hi all, back again after a long gap. Not much progress this month.
The fore top yard is finished with its chain halyard. The foot ropes are 0.010 black wire
while the suspenders are black 0.008 rope.
The fore yard is almost finished, missing the foot ropes. The chain topsail sheets go
to a device that is like a funny double block. Pict 4. I don't know its name.
Its made from brass sheet folded.
The crane is purchased and attached by a small brass tube with fine wire pulled through.
Next is the other two fore yards and then install the mast and the shrouds.
cheers Jim
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Old 10-30-2018, 12:17 PM
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Hi Jim!

Wow! This looks really great! I like the chains going through the 'funny double block'. Impressive work on the fore yard. Looking forward to seeing the other yards done!

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Old 10-30-2018, 04:53 PM
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thanks Radek,
I did some research on the "funny double block" and it seems to be properly called a cloverleaf block.
The 2 "petals" are more pronounced on the real thing.
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Old 11-02-2018, 07:43 PM
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You're pulling it off Jim - and in style too.
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Old 11-13-2018, 10:10 PM
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Well the rest of the foremast yards are finally done. I wanted to finish them before
mounting the foremast so that they could just be hung later. The sheets on the top yard
and topgallant yard are strange in that a chain goes through the sheave at the tip of the
yard and then rope is used to go down to the deck. Its on the plans.
The footropes are wire and the suspenders are thread.


The first 2 pics are the top yard, the second 2 are the topgallant yard and the third 2 are
the royal yard. Finally the yards sort of hung on and look sloppy without the braces
and last showing the chain halyards on the movable yards.
cheers Jim
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Old 12-27-2018, 10:31 PM
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hi everybody, it's been a long ime between posts. Not a lot to show either.
The foremast is fitted and the fore yard and fore top yard attached.
The after three shrouds are on.
I elected to leave the front ones dangling to give access to the pin rail.
The chain topsail sheets go down to the fore pin rail with a tackle.


This ship has some unusual features which are puzzling:
There is no pin rail up forward for the jib down hauls;
There are rollers at the back edge of the fore platform.
I am guessing that the down hauls go over these rollers and down to the fore pin rail.
I may be wrong but I am building it that way anyway.
Since this is a student ship it may have been a safety feature for protection from heavy weather.
The last 5 pics show the innermost jib tackle rigged this way.
cheers Jim
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