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Old 10-15-2017, 02:34 PM
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"De Zeven Provincien" 1665 [1:100]

Hello,

it is really difficult to write something original about such a famous ship. So maybe the short story, how I started it, is more interesting.

Long, long time ago (about one year ago) I asked Ab ("abhovi") about his opinion on some drawings of Polish old sailship. He confirmed my doubts about those plans and suggested, that there could be some more interesting ships I could build, for example "De Zeven Provincien" So I started working on this model. I received drawing and Ab was patiently helping me, answering questions, explaining details... and now you can see the very first effects of our "co-operation".

I built the frame structure only to the "verdek", and then I will add higher "levels" of the "halfdek" and the "bakdek". Gunports will be open only on the left side, and that is why I painted dark brown only there. At the very begining I had to attach "kardeelblok", as it is tide two decks lower, and it couldn't be possible to do it later. Now this block will wait 1,5-2 years:-)))))

I'm convinced that every single word about the ship and drawings written by Ab will be more fascinating, than my broken English. So now the first pictures:

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Tomek
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Old 10-15-2017, 03:25 PM
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Why gun ports on port side only? Is that the way the real ship was built
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Old 10-15-2017, 03:45 PM
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Hello Tomek,
Nice beginning to your Zeven Provincien.
That final photo shows a significant difference in size when compared to your other project. But I see they are both 1:100 scale.
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Old 10-16-2017, 01:07 AM
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Why gun ports on port side only? Is that the way the real ship was built
Of course not, gun ports were on both sides, Tomek only make them closed on one side, just read his post correctly !!
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Old 10-27-2017, 11:56 AM
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Hi all,

step by step I am working on this model, but it is much bigger than I expected:-) I made "Wasa" about 15 years ago and I forgot how big such a model can be.
First of all I'd like to thank Ab for a short but very accurate description of "De Zeven Provincien", her reconstruction and drawings on which I am working. I don't see the point to divide or cut the text I have received, so here it is:

"...De 7 ProvinciŽn was built in 1665 in Rotterdam as the new flagship for the famous Dutch admiral Michiel de Ruyter (1607-1767), who sailed it from 1666-1674. Its measurements were 163 x 43 x 16.5 Amsterdam feet (46.13 x 12.17 x 4.67 m), it carried 80 guns, its displacement was 1600 tons and there was a crew of 420 men aboard.

The name was chosen because of the seven counties that fought the 80-years war of liberation against the Spanish from 1568 to 1648. The united country had also freed itself from the Catholic Church and nobility and the name is a tribute to an organisation, which proved its right of existence without a ruling king between 1649 and 1672. In that year stadtholder Willem III, Prince of Orange, the later king of England William III (1650-1702), returned to Holland.
The ship fought in the second (1665-1667) and third (1672-1674) Anglo-Dutch Wars and took part in the Four-Days Battle (1666), The Two-Days Battle (1666), the Chatham Raid (1667), the Battle of Solebay (1672), the Battle of Schooneveld (1673) and the Battle of the Texel(1673). In 1674 the ship even visited the West-Indies. In 1692 she fought in the Battle of Barfleur and was broken up in 1694.

The lines of the model were reconstructed by Ab Hoving, Herbert Tomesen and drawn by Cor Emke in 2006. They were based on both contemporary Dutch shipbuilding literature and specification contracts of comparable ships of those days. Also earlier publications by G.C Dik and O. Blom were used in the new design. It was intended to rebuild the ship that was put on the stocks of the Bataviawerf in Lelystad, Holland, in 1996 which project appeared to fail in the beginning of this century. Though great progress was made in the first three years the revived project was stopped because of a lack of money..."

The process of the model building is now at the most boring stage:
1. I spent some hours with a sandpaper to prepare frames for the first layer.
2. I sticked the first layer (which is so trivial, that I did not remember to take pictures:-).
3. Again "sandpaper job" to begin the second layer. This one is about 0,7 mm thick. In the future I'll glue the final layer, which will be 1 mm thick.

I added 7 planks on both sides, got tired and can't see any progress:-))

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Tomek
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Old 10-28-2017, 06:35 AM
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Wonderful write-up with photos of your progress!!
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Old 10-29-2017, 01:18 AM
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Very accurate build. I am surprised that you don't have any stressed skin.
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Old 10-29-2017, 05:52 AM
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Very interesting build. I have seen the replica in progress at the Batavia wharf in Lelystad a few years ago and it's a pity they have run out of funds to continue. This is by far the most famous ship in Dutch history and therefore would deserve a better fate. The original had been in service for 30 years, that must have been a long time, given the primitive maintenance and preservation methods of those days, I suppose.

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