Pirate ship fleet builder

[marc pasquin]

needs more flags !

(sorry, amateur vexillologist)

can even be a gaming function for it: identify squadron/affiliation, presence of admiral/pirate king on board, status of ship (on fire, quarantined, etc...)

[Papierschnitzel]

Originally Posted by marc pasquin

needs more flags !

(sorry, amateur vexillologist)

can even be a gaming function for it: identify squadron/affiliation, presence of admiral/pirate king on board, status of ship (on fire, quarantined, etc...)

No problem! As I am not even an amateur just let me know what! I have made a flags file with some jolly roger and some country flags. Open to more input. Need input


Cheers,
Chris

[rockpaperscissor]

As always, your textures are first rate. A great looking model.

[marc pasquin]

Originally Posted by Papierschnitzel

No problem! As I am not even an amateur just let me know what! I have made a flags file with some jolly roger and some country flags. Open to more input. Need input


Cheers,
Chris

I'll be honest here, I was being more "enthusiastically demanding" than anything. naval flag recognition before the mid-20th century was pretty complex and some famously large tomes were published that had pages of flags for each and every single countries which an officer might encounter at sea ('cause having a single quarantine flags for all countries would have been *way* too simple.....).

Part of the issue was that flags were not always consistent across time and place. For example, in the table I made below, the rank flags would be accurate for the Royal Navy between 1805-1864 but not before or after and not for related organisations (like the Royal Naval Reserve or the Royal Naval Voluntary Reserve). between 1702-1805, the flags for the red squadron were different and after 1864, the system was actually much simpler.

Depending on the level of realism you're after, I could post flags or links that relate to specific countries and time periods (say the age of piracy which is ~1650 to ~1730) or if you just want all purpose ones, that is certainly doable.

[Papierschnitzel]

Thank you for the samples!

I would certainly be interested in flags for at least the major players of the classic pirate era like England, France, Spain.

I have collected these so far ...


Chris

[marc pasquin]

Originally Posted by Papierschnitzel

Thank you for the samples!

I would certainly be interested in flags for at least the major players of the classic pirate era like England, France, Spain.

I have collected these so far ...


Chris

so UK, Spain, France & Portugal late 17th to mid 18th century ?

[Papierschnitzel]

Yes, if you have more ideas just let me know!


Chris

[ReSzAT80]

Hi,


- Is the Union Jack in the above pictures with the red diagonal cross, i.e. the St. Patrick's saltine? As far as I remember that got added to the Union Jack only in the early 1800s.


- For the Spanish the Cross of Burgundy might have been also used


- Maybe the Dutch might be a worthy addition, using the Statenvlag

[marc pasquin]

Originally Posted by ReSzAT80

Hi,

- Is the Union Jack in the above pictures with the red diagonal cross, i.e. the St. Patrick's saltine? As far as I remember that got added to the Union Jack only in the early 1800s.

yup, 1801. same time the COA was changed to drop the french claim

Originally Posted by ReSzAT80

- For the Spanish the Cross of Burgundy might have been also used

Although it depends on the particular time period. in 1665, spain stopped using the burgundy cross as an ensign in favour of some heraldic banner. The cross continued to be used in other context though

Originally Posted by ReSzAT80

- Maybe the Dutch might be a worthy addition, using the Statenvlag

The dutch had chartered companies (Dutch East India Company & Dutch West India Company) so they would be pretty tasty targets for pirates.

[Papierschnitzel]

I don't know much about the details. I just found a WIKI site that had them :-)


Dutch sounds like a good idea! Thanks


Chris