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Old 09-09-2019, 08:01 AM
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Looks great and it's nice that some design help was given from Dave, the turret really changes the overall look significantly good work Mike and Dave
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Thanks Glen.
Dave does very fine work.
Lately I have been watching his armor projects.
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Was the gun barrel paper? It's very nicely rolled!

It seems from the photo there is a piece of armuored gun shield mounted directly on the gun, but is not visible on the model. Is it covered by additional armour on the turret face?
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Old 09-09-2019, 05:45 PM
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Thanks Lex. Yes, the gun barrels are rolled from paper. It requires some practice, but is worth the effort.

Regarding the photo: There are a number of objects in this photo that I don’t have answers for, but I’ll speculate on a couple of things: I think the gun shield you referred to that is mounted directly to the gun (shown with red arrow) could have been something temporary during construction. Or perhaps it was left in place. Note the gentleman on the right standing in the opening for the right gun barrel has his hands on what I think is the front face of the turret.

I added another image that shows the same things on the gun barrel being hoisted into position, and also on the one in the turret. There is a gentleman with his right foot on the shield of the barrel in the turret. After the roof of the turret was installed, the shields cannot be seen.

I found an image looking directly down the gun barrels of USS Kansas (one of the ships of this class), and only darkness can be seen inside the turret. There may be a member or two here that might know more about this than I.

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You Sir, are creating a bloody marvel. Brilliant.
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Old 09-10-2019, 06:11 AM
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Thank you Mike1158 for the compliment.
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Old 09-10-2019, 06:42 PM
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Michael, it's a guess but I would suggest that the red arrowed plate on your photo is an armor shield to protect the turret in case an enemy shell hits in the vicinity of the opening through the armor on its front. Basically a splinter shield for the crew and mechanisms inside the turret.

Very nice build btw. Looking forward to your future progress...

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Old 09-11-2019, 05:39 AM
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Michael, it's a guess but I would suggest that the red arrowed plate on your photo is an armor shield to protect the turret in case an enemy shell hits in the vicinity of the opening through the armor on its front. Basically a splinter shield for the crew and mechanisms inside the turret.

Very nice build btw. Looking forward to your future progress...

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Thanks Darius.
I tend to agree with you. They appear to have been added during construction as an afterthought.
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Thanks Darius.
I tend to agree with you. They appear to have been added during construction as an afterthought.
Mike
A bit of engineering coming out of me, but I expect the shields were not an after thought but rather intended to be fitted after actual installation measurements were made. It's how I would have done it. In those day you have to figure that tolerances and clearances were not nearly as tight as today's manufacturing. Also when you consider the scale of the work, even today you'd be hard pressed to control such features. The shield would rapidly lose it's effectiveness as the gaps opened up.
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Old 09-12-2019, 05:52 AM
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A bit of engineering coming out of me, but I expect the shields were not an after thought but rather intended to be fitted after actual installation measurements were made. It's how I would have done it. In those day you have to figure that tolerances and clearances were not nearly as tight as today's manufacturing. Also when you consider the scale of the work, even today you'd be hard pressed to control such features. The shield would rapidly lose it's effectiveness as the gaps opened up.


Yes. I see what you mean. They had to wait till they were far enough along to get it right. The gun barrels needed to move up and down.
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