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Old 12-13-2019, 11:25 AM
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Your doing a terrific job !
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Old 12-13-2019, 01:14 PM
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Fine work on this model of an elegant liner.

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Old 03-18-2020, 09:42 PM
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Thank you all for the encouragement...

Bremen's lifeboats were a bit of a mess... so group 1, I made wrong by not setting the frame deep enough within the outside shell of the boat, and did this very consistently for about 20 boats, when by chance I made one the right way. Checked the photo of the assembled model that covers Schreiber's kit, yup, made them wrong.

Group 2 I made the right way, even if some were a little "ribby," and added a small rudder for each, which didn't really increase the overall length. Then went to install... the boats were running into the winch platforms, each other, and not lining up correctly under the davits...

looked at Schreiber's picture again, closely, and then a side elevation of the prototype.

The bulk of the boats between postions 5, 6 (3rd pair aft of the bridge) and 23, 24 (second to last pair on Upper promenade deck) should all be 28mm long ; boats 3 & 4, with the gunwale extensions, should be 30mm. All of Schreiber's, both assembled wrong and assembled right, measure 30mm. Schreiber does also include a pair of yellow colored boats for positions 3 & 4 which are clearly too long...

They do all technically fit under the davits...
oh, the other thing is that the davits aren't correctly placed, beginning with boats 3 & 4 and then not having even spacing between pairs of boats, the gap between davits at the winch supporting platforms is like 9mm, and the empty platforms, 7 or so...this was already a finished concern i had figured, since these platforms are part of the Sundeck structure.

So I ended up with group 3, after a bunch of trials. 28mm long except for boats 3 & 4, 8 mm beam, little bit longer parellel section in the middle and open-topped, since most pictures I've seen show her boats uncovered. I was not as consistent between boats as I would like to be, but I'll have another group for Europa.

I dont want to sound as if i'm complaining about Schreiber, I think overall its pretty good and much easier to 'repair' than any plastic ship I'd ever put together. It's been a lot more work, but also much more fufilling...Rigging next, and I'm horrible at that
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Old 03-18-2020, 11:08 PM
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Job well done ! Beautiful to look at !
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Old 03-21-2020, 05:51 AM
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You are doing a great job! I never tried an underwater ship. BREMEN is together with her sister EUROPA one of my favorites. I must build that ship sometimes, maybe the 1:400 Schreiber or the 1:250 HMV with nearly 2.000 parts in the basic and 5.000 in the extended version... I think I`ll have to wait until my retirement. Till then I enjoy your build here
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Old 03-22-2020, 09:46 AM
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Your skills are pretty ahead of mine, I'm pretty sure Schreiber's model would be in good hands with you☺. As far as parts count, i don 't dare do that, had someone told me last June I would still be unfinished in March, i'm not sure i would have bought the model in the first place. So i would have never been on this forum, never really researched BREMEN at all, ... biting off more than i can chew has rather oddly paid off☺
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Old 04-09-2020, 09:11 PM
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Finished, I think. My rigging I know is iffy, but this is so far the most I've dared. Mainmast started a small bowing in the top 25mm or so, but all of the rigging is glue-stiffened thread & didnt think I was putting that much of a load on the mast. Attempted to stiffen with a pin down the center to no good or bad effect, then figured discretion was the better part of valor (i.e., stop 'fixing' before I really break something)

Schreiber was pretty forgiving of some serious sins on my part☺

Thank you all for the encouragement here☺
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Old 04-10-2020, 01:42 AM
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Hi
Very good work and meritorious for its complexity. You had a lot of patience and meticulousness
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Old 04-16-2020, 11:29 AM
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Hello Tim,

congratulations for your well built BREMEN - Great work! That`s her in all her beauty and your avatar is quite perfect for that I am looking forward for your next build.
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Old 04-16-2020, 10:00 PM
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Llaut, Nils,

Thank you both, considering what I've seen you both do, it's an honor.
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