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Old 01-14-2020, 03:20 PM
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- but a scarf joint is a specific type of overlapping joint; this method doesn't overlap at all, so it might get confusing for folks if they read that and expect to have to cut matching pairs of angles through thin paper...


I don't think it has an equivalent name in woodworking, since it's possibly the weakest method imaginable to join adjacent sheets of material. It won't work without a backing strip.
It's called a mitre joint in carpentry. You're welcome.
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It's called a mitre joint in carpentry. You're welcome.
No, it’s completely different: A mitre joint has the angled faces of each piece in contact. This joint effectively only has an edge in contact.
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scarfing joint...is referred to as bogarting the joint in 'merica.
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Maybe* cellulose jointy da joint would do...
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The closest approximation in engineering terms would probably be a "Single V Butt" joint - as applied to welding.



In general terms, "Bevelled Edge Line" (BEL?) joint would probably describe it accurately enough:



The edge of the paper is bevelled (a bevel is effectively a chamfer that covers the entire depth of section, as we have here), and, in theory, it's a line that's being bonded (as opposed to a face).
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Old 01-15-2020, 07:53 AM
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okay, gotta squeeze in two more...then I'll stop...


1. "butt joint" -had one of those in wallet for months.


2. I suggest we all agree and call it "jointy-mc-joint-face"
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BEL sounds good. Count me in as an early adopter....

drg did you settled on any specific glue for attaching decks and hull skins to the frame so they wouldn't wrinkle...?

I think Krylon " Spray Adhesive " is an excellent glue but in spray so it could be difficult to apply with precision. On the other hand who cares if you over spray. All internal structures are hidden from the praying eyes anyway...I think I'm going to test this idea with my next project.
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BEL sounds good. Count me in as an early adopter....

drg did you settled on any specific glue for attaching decks and hull skins to the frame so they wouldn't wrinkle...?

I think Krylon " Spray Adhesive " is an excellent glue but in spray so it could be difficult to apply with precision. On the other hand who cares if you over spray. All internal structures are hidden from the praying eyes anyway...I think I'm going to test this idea with my next project.

Yep - UHU, based on advice from Ben at Fentens. Next post should explain it, I hope when everything is set and cured it stays as it is, because so far it's worked - no wrinkling at all despite using a fair amount to secure the decks...
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Old 01-15-2020, 03:38 PM
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So the time has come for deck fitting part deux.

There was a slight warp in the deck, so I chased it around with various rulers and weights until it was around a secondary turret hole. I the sliced the deck locally through the hole and could then see the extent of the mis-match:



Then marked and sliced it using the bevelled edge technique:





Backed up with plain printer paper:



Not forgetting to add the deck steps:



Then crunch time - sticking the deck, this time with UHU. I worked middle to edges, front to back in stages:





Despite daubing the substructure in glue with a cocktail stick, no wrinkles!



I re-reamed the modified deck hole so it was circular again, and temporarily fitted the turret mounting cylinders with their jigs:



Still to add the front two bits, but should be a trivial task. The cut-and-shut didn’t fully get rid of the warp in the end, but it’s in a fairly unobtrusive place, so it’s manageable now I think.
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Old 01-16-2020, 10:42 AM
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I think your main deck is almost perfection. Very nicely done. I'm surprised you used BEL joint for two flat segments. I thought this is something best used on edges meeting at less than 180* as well as other folds. But as long as it works congrats.*
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