Narrow seas, archipelagos, and coastal operations

[Foute Man]

Originally Posted by wireandpaper

Thank you. As you mentioned the pattern was used in the Higgins in the Mediterranean but there is very little info about them. A few pics from PT 208, only from the front, but no side views or profiles.

Anyone with relevant info????

some specific info about the zebra scheme:

PT Boat World - History and Modeling

the few photos I've found suggest the Adaptor Scheme/Zebra scheme was used on boats that served in the Pacific and not in Europe, the sideview of PT 208 in my previous post shows a different scheme

this is PT-170

[Rock55]

Hello again. Not to stir up any trouble but a modified adaptor scheme was used on Higgins boats in the Med theater. There is evidence that a very modified scheme was applied to some boats operating in the Channel during the D-Day invasions. A really good source for this is PT boat forum. It is free to join and loaded with photos and info. That is ptboatforum.com Take a look...

[Foute Man]

Originally Posted by Rock55

Hello again. Not to stir up any trouble but a modified adaptor scheme was used on Higgins boats in the Med theater. There is evidence that a very modified scheme was applied to some boats operating in the Channel during the D-Day invasions. A really good source for this is PT boat forum. It is free to join and loaded with photos and info. That is ptboatforum.com Take a look...

Don't worry, as I wrote before I had not found any photo's of the zebra scheme applied to boats serving in the Mediterranean yet......

However you could help me out by naming the hull numbers of the boats the scheme was applied to... either in the English Channel or the Mediterranean sea.
I'm still waiting for approval to access the ptboat forum though

[wireandpaper]

Thank you Foute Man and Rock55:
If you find something that shows a side view of Higgins in adaptor scheme please let us know. So far what is apparent is that the stripes in the Higgins are broader than in the Elcos, making them better for small scale modeling.
If anyone has more info please let us know!

[Rock55]

Hello. From the photos I have downloaded I can only make out two positive IDs...PT-207 and 208 with this scheme. Other photos are too dark to make out boat numbers. The nice folks at PT Boat forum can give you far more info. If you cannot find the information, just post a question. Someone will have the answers for you. As to the boats in the Channel during D-Day, PT-501, an 80 ft Elco, had an interesting variation of this scheme. Anyway, good luck and good hunting!!

[Foute Man]

Very strange, but in my previous posts I placed some direct links to several images, but for some reasons the images aren't visible anymore...... so in my next posts I will link to webpages with the images that are no longer visible in this thread, and I will also upload the images themselves

but first of all, Rock55 is right about PT-207, serving with MTBRon 15 in the Mediterranean, check out this page on Navsource.org and most of all check out this photo of PT-207 in the "Zebra Scheme"

The Navsource.org indexpage for all PT-Boats can be found here

[Foute Man]

This is the PT-208 page on Navsource.org

Here is a sideview and here is a front view

PT-208 also served with MTBRon 15 in the Mediterranean

[Foute Man]

Not a "Zebra Scheme", but still a very interesting one imho, PT-203 with a Sharkmouth. PT-203 also served with MTBRon 15 in the Mediterranean. Here is the PT-203 page on Navsource

PT-203 side by side with PT-202 and PT-210
Frontal view with crew
PT-203 with PT-215, photo dated 1944
a colour photo with crew in port, with waterreflection on the hull. Photo dated 1944

[Foute Man]

Another set of interesting pictures: PT-204 (also with MTBRon 15 in the Mediterranean). Could be source for some diorama's?????

PT-204 page on Navsource.org

PT-204 anno 1943, as deck cargo onboard T3-S-A1 type fleet oiler USS Enoree (AO 69)
PT-204 in drydock, frontal view
Pt-204 in drydock, with checkerboard stern
PT-204 with other unidentified boats in Bastia. PT-204 is supposed to be the outboard boat. Please note the "Ace of Spades" on the stern of the "inboard" boat
40 mm bofor on PT-204
another photo of the 40 mm bofor Caption on Navsource: "Bizerte, Tunisia
MoMM1c Dave Prentice of PT-204 goofing on the 40mm mount forward of PT-214
Photo from the collection of MoMM1c Dave Prentice, PT-204"

[Foute Man]

MS 31/20L, designed for the Higgins boat