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Old 11-12-2019, 12:34 AM
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Narrow seas, archipelagos, and coastal operations

One of the first card models that I bought was the CONRAD and the MTB/MGB S1, S2, S4, S5 from JSC (023).
At the beginning I did not dominated small cylinders for the deep charges with card stock (and I still struggling) so I just omitted them in my first attempt.
I always liked the small torpedo boats and small crafts since Mr. Airfixs had them and I just couldn't afford them and watching McHale's Navy!
I did these more than a decade ago, before I knew I was a papermodeler. I am including how they should look from the JSC site.
I hope you like them.
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Old 11-12-2019, 06:47 AM
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I think your Narrow Seas watercraft look mighty fine, Pablo.

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Old 11-12-2019, 05:28 PM
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Nice, tight builds!

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Old 11-12-2019, 11:12 PM
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Foes

Thank you Don and Wyvern!

Once I started with the MTB/MGB I needed foes, but noting available in 1/400, so I looked somewhere. This is, I think one of the most important benefits of paper modeling, resizing (try that with pl----- or worst re---).

These are card models of a Schnellboot and a Räumboot by Wilhelmshavener reduced from 1/250 to 1/400 with some photo-etched and minor additions to the masts. When reduced to 1/400 the S-Boat measures the same as the Heller models. This is a composite of different classes with an oversize pilot house. The R-boats were general purpose craft used for escort, patrol, minesweeping, rescue and, when needed, evacuation!

Let's see what you think.

ps: BTW I took these pictures before I was a dad
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Old 11-13-2019, 07:40 AM
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Nice work again, Pablo.

It looks like you are ready to recreate the Battle of the Narrow Seas (the WWII one, not the 1602 Anglo-Dutch Battle of Goodwin Sands).

The book by Peter Scott (as you probably know, the son of Antarctic explorer Robert Scott and the commander of steam gunboats in the Channel during WWII), The Battle of the Narrow Seas, is my favorite account of the channel warfare .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Scott
https://www.usni.org/press/books/battle-narrow-seas

Peter Scott's autobiography, The Eye of the Wind, is also wonderful (in my opinion).

I have enjoyed seeing your fleet of coastal warships take shape.

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Old 11-14-2019, 02:21 AM
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Other relevant books

Thank you Don:

I found the book on the Royal Naval Coastal Forces super useful for a modeler. It has most of the craft data and diagrams that were used by the Royal Navy and the Commonwealth (and Poland); from the prewar tiny CMB to the mighty Fairmile D, with the exception of the SGB.

The Ballantine still a nice introduction to these boats, after almost 50 years of the first edition. It covers most theaters of operation in a brief way.

I also intent to cover some of the craft used in the Mediterranean and the Pacific. Although for the IJN there is a lack of reliable information, and to a lesser degree for the Regia Marina. Any pointers?
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Old 11-14-2019, 07:41 AM
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Yes. Both of those books are very useful, and the North book is great for browsing.

I have not seen any books in English that cover the Italian and Japanese WWII coastal forces, although both navies made much use of such watercraft (in very different ways, given the very different geographical and operational conditions).

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Old 11-14-2019, 10:29 PM
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The Mediterranean

These are two axis torpedo boats used in the Mediterranean and surroundings.
The Schnellboot S-151 class was going to be completed in Holland to a British design, but the captured unfinished boats were completed as small S-boats able to navigate inland to the Mediterranean. Compared to the later S-Boats these measured only 28.3 m in contrast to 35 m. Very little information about this interesting class is available. So a lot of guess work.
The other boat is an Italian MAS-500 (Motoscafo Armato Silurante = Torpedo Armed Motorboat). The Italian showed the power of such small boats during World War I. The design evolved during the inter war years benefiting from the Isotta Fraschini engines, which also were sought for the earlier British MTBs. Their length was 18,7 m.
These are scratch card models with some photo-etched and wire details. Thankfully I had the JSC models, they served to pattern the hull of the MAS, and Mr. Italeri provided the info for colors and general layout.

ps: Thank you Don.
I know, the red bands needed to be broader.
I don't know how the R-Boot crashed the party.
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"Fast Fighting Boats 1870-1945" by Harald Fock, Naval Institute Press, 1978 has info and drawings on the Italian boats, MAS and VAS, pre-war and WW2. The coverage of Japanese boats is a bit skimpy, limited to a dozen or so side views; no overheads or cross-sections. There is significant text on both nations' boats.

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Thank you very much Wayne!
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