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Old 06-26-2020, 06:45 AM
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Well, this brought a different question to mind.


On the actual ships, was there a somewhat standard cloth used for sails, or did it differ based on the shipbuilders' locations? I would assume the Ottomans used something different than the Venetians, which would differ from the Genoans, etc. I can't imagine that Dutch ships and Genoans would purchase sail cloth from the same shop
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Old 07-06-2020, 06:27 AM
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Hello Vermin_King,

Sorry for the delay in answering. Many things kept me busy amongst which my wife's and my 50 anniversary.

Anyway, about the use of cloth and where it came from: Here in Holland there were complete regions where the main source of income was the weaving of cloth for sails. Not only for use in Holland, it was also a popular export product. Personally I do not exclude the possibility that even Genoans used some of the cloth brought in from Holland. It might very well be delivered in the same ships that brought northern European grain, corn and wheat to Italy and returned full of fruit and wine to Holland.

There were several 'sizes' of cloth: the usual light sort made of hemp was called canefas (like canvas), which was 75 cm wide. A thinner cloth, called 'Klaverdoek' was much narrower and mainly used for topgallant and stay-sails and there was a heavy kind, used in areas with rough weather. On top of that there was cloth made for flags, surprisingly sometimes made from wool!
Also the origin of the cloth was of influence to the quality, like 'Meppeler doek', apparently made in Meppel, a small town up north-east, or 'Vlaams doek', apparently coming from Flanders in the south.
There have been studies made for sailing cloth and its origins, but as hardly any piece has survived the times it is a hard subject to study.

Does that answer your question?
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Old 07-06-2020, 09:38 AM
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Probably as close to an answer as I can get. Thanks, and congratulations on the anniversary
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Finished

Emiel supplied me with the long expected Photoshop painting of the man-of-war I showed here this summer. It is a view on the Amsterdam harbor with the Admiralties magazine (today the Scheepvaartmuseum) in the near distance.It is the end of the day and a calm allows various vessels to dry their sails, while some yachts still find enough wind to view the anchored ships.
There is a lot to see and it does not even show my entire fleet!
Hope you like it just as much as I do.

Another Dutch warship-adam-kopie.jpg
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Old 12-01-2020, 11:34 AM
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Beautiful image.
The buildings of Amsterdam can be seen in the distance.
The colors in the clouds provide a beautiful background.
Question: What is the cloud to the left of the large ship?
It looks like smoke from cannon fire.
But this is a peaceful scene, so it must be something else.
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Old 12-01-2020, 11:50 AM
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This is such a great artwork! Thank you so much for sharing! I lack the words to describe my appreciation.

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Old 12-01-2020, 12:01 PM
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Amazing work! Both the models and artwork.

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Old 12-02-2020, 04:12 AM
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Thanks for your appreciation.
Michael: it is indeed smok from cannon fire. But not for aggressive reasons. Just a salute shot.
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