PaperModelers.com

Go Back   PaperModelers.com > >

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-24-2019, 09:12 PM
spencermitchellmusic's Avatar
spencermitchellmusic spencermitchellmusic is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
Posts: 299
Total Downloaded: 0
Question about * on a part

Hey everyone, sorry if this is the wrong place to post this. I haven't been on here in a couple of years and haven't been building for about as long. I recently bought a model from Wish and received it the other day (in really bad shape btw). I started working on it this evening and several of the parts have a * next to them and some of them even have ** next to them. The instructions are very vague and there is nothing indicating what the * means.

I'm guessing it means to laminate the part to cardboard? If so does one * mean one peice of cardboard and ** mean two peices of cardboard? If so, how thick is the cardboard? I'll post a picture of the cover page and the parts in question in case anyone else has ever built this kit.

Thanks
Attached Thumbnails
Question about * on a part-img_20191024_230952.jpg   Question about * on a part-img_20191024_231013.jpg  
Reply With Quote
Login to remove ads
  #2  
Old 10-24-2019, 09:22 PM
rickstef's Avatar
rickstef rickstef is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Hockessin, Delaware
Posts: 8,301
Total Downloaded: 462.95 MB
Send a message via Yahoo to rickstef Send a message via Skype™ to rickstef
I hope the cost for the kit wasn't a lot
None of the Halinski kits i have are loose leaf, always in booklet format.

From what I have seen in my kits, there are usually 3 cardboard thicknesses called for
Bristol(a couple of sheets of your favorite stock laminated together)
* usual means 1mm thick cardboard
** probably 1.5 to 2 mm thick cardboard
__________________
"Rock is Dead, Long Live Paper and Scissors"
International Paper Model Convention Blog
http://paperdakar.blogspot.com/
"The weak point of the modern car is the squidgy organic bit behind the wheel." Jeremy Clarkson, Top Gear's Race to Oslo
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-25-2019, 07:53 AM
spencermitchellmusic's Avatar
spencermitchellmusic spencermitchellmusic is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
Posts: 299
Total Downloaded: 0
Thanks, I definitely feel like I paid too much. It seems clear that this is a pirated copy of the original model. It came from China in a flimsy cardboard envelope that was completely ripped to shreds by the time it got to my mailbox where it was carelessly shoved in with the rest of the mail. The paper is all warped and messed up.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-25-2019, 08:32 AM
modelperry's Avatar
modelperry modelperry is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Burlington, Iowa
Posts: 2,055
Total Downloaded: 7.67 MB
* could also mean 0.5 mm and ** 1.0 mm.

Greg
__________________
In dry dock: Dreadnaught. In factory: Famo Sdkfz 9. In hanger: I-16. under construction: ?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-25-2019, 09:19 AM
YankeeBoy's Avatar
YankeeBoy YankeeBoy is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: The Old Dominion
Posts: 721
Total Downloaded: 1.18 GB
Halinski kit laminations are generally coded as follows:

b Bristol. i.e. laminate with card stock
* 0.5 mm
** 1.0 mm
*** 2.0 mm (found on older kits - 2000 and earlier)
__________________
2.6% Neanderthal DNA
YB
(Currently pondering the next build)
Reply With Quote
Login to remove ads
  #6  
Old 10-25-2019, 05:36 PM
SJPONeill's Avatar
SJPONeill SJPONeill is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Near the Spiral, NZ.
Posts: 2,685
Total Downloaded: 179.64 MB
Send a message via Skype™ to SJPONeill
The piracy thing aside, some of these models, you have to translate the written instructions to get the nitty-gritty on lamination thicknesses. To do this you can either scan the text pages into a PDF, OCR the text and then copy and paste into Google Translate of similar.

Alternatively, as in my case, you can buy the lovely Polish food and bev manager at a local hotel a few wines and she will read the translations into a recorder...
__________________
Please critique my posts honestly i.e. say what you think so I can learn and improve...
The World According to Me
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-25-2019, 06:12 PM
Lex's Avatar
Lex Lex is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: London, Britannia
Posts: 1,435
Total Downloaded: 63.49 MB
Send a message via MSN to Lex
Quote:
Originally Posted by SJPONeill View Post
The piracy thing aside, some of these models, you have to translate the written instructions to get the nitty-gritty on lamination thicknesses. To do this you can either scan the text pages into a PDF, OCR the text and then copy and paste into Google Translate of similar.

Alternatively, as in my case, you can buy the lovely Polish food and bev manager at a local hotel a few wines and she will read the translations into a recorder...
That, is the best piece of advice I heard today...
__________________
"The world is big"
Working on: Fuyuzuki Seafang F32, XP55 Ascender, Zao
On hold: Akizuki, Ise
Past works: IS-3, Spitfire V, Chengdu J-20, DH Comet 4B
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-25-2019, 07:34 PM
rickstef's Avatar
rickstef rickstef is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Hockessin, Delaware
Posts: 8,301
Total Downloaded: 462.95 MB
Send a message via Yahoo to rickstef Send a message via Skype™ to rickstef
I would suggest, using the kit as a learning tool, get some of the discussed card board thicknesses and build those parts which call for those thicknesses, this way you can learn how to build a kit of this complexity, and not feel that you wasted the money by recycling the kit, and this will help you build skill as you said you only have done a couple of models prior to this one.

And if you feel that you can successfully build the proper kit, then I would suggest getting the kit from a proper online shop, and then build it using the knowledge gained from those test builds

Rick
__________________
"Rock is Dead, Long Live Paper and Scissors"
International Paper Model Convention Blog
http://paperdakar.blogspot.com/
"The weak point of the modern car is the squidgy organic bit behind the wheel." Jeremy Clarkson, Top Gear's Race to Oslo
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-25-2019, 08:34 PM
Olo Olo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Milton, Ontario
Posts: 298
Total Downloaded: 5.91 MB
If anyone needs translation from Polish language let me know I can help.
* use .5 mm cardboard
** use 1 mm cardboard
*** use 2 mm cardboard
+ use 0.2 mm paper

++ use 0.4 mm paper


I hope that helps
__________________
Passion is the key....
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-26-2019, 08:27 PM
spencermitchellmusic's Avatar
spencermitchellmusic spencermitchellmusic is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
Posts: 299
Total Downloaded: 0
Thank you all very much. So my next question would be what do you use for the two different cardboard thicknesses? Is the typical cereal box approximately 1mm?
Reply With Quote
Login to remove ads
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:46 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Resources saved on this page: MySQL 8.33%
Parts of this site powered by vBulletin Mods & Addons from DragonByte Technologies Ltd. (Details)
Copyright © 2007-17, Paper Modelers.com