PaperModelers.com

Go Back   PaperModelers.com > Card Models > Found it on the internet > Video Vault

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-16-2016, 07:35 AM
John Wagenseil John Wagenseil is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Eastern end of the Mid West US.
Posts: 3,682
Total Downloaded: 4.62 GB
Objekt 279

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQJe-2oa0ww
Reply With Quote
Google Adsense
  #2  
Old 05-16-2016, 12:35 PM
whulsey's Avatar
whulsey whulsey is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Miami, AZ
Posts: 8,839
Total Downloaded: 65.34 MB
Interesting; but even if it survived the heat and shockwave what keeps the crew from the equivalent of being stuck in a microwave?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-16-2016, 06:50 PM
CharlieC's Avatar
CharlieC CharlieC is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 2,225
Total Downloaded: 16.12 MB
The design makes sense for the time - 1959. It was fairly obvious that any conflict between Nato and the Red Army in Europe would immediately go nuclear since Nato did not have the resources to withstand a conventional attack by the Red Army. The only outcome of a Soviet attack across the North German Plain was the deployment of low yield (tactical) warheads to stop the Soviet armour spearheads. It makes sense to explore whether it is possible to design a heavy breakthrough tank which could survive a nuclear battlefield.

Of course, it turned out that just having a nuclear defence doctrine with deployed warheads was sufficient to deter any Soviet attack. No one could devise a scenario where the use of tactical warheads did not escalate rapidly to a full nuclear exchange so the Soviets kept the Red Army tank divisions within the Warsaw Pact borders.

Regards,

Charlie
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-20-2016, 09:01 AM
Mike1158's Avatar
Mike1158 Mike1158 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 3,246
Total Downloaded: 1.34 GB
While we were practising what we called crash outs and the Americans called bug outs in the 70's the official survival expectation for our Chieftains if the Warsaw Pact crossed the IGB was between 37 and 47 seconds. This from time of first contact. Major general Sir John Hacket wrote a popular book called the Third world war but he suggested that while the Warsaw pact would win, it might take a few weeks without so called Battlefield nukes.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-20-2016, 11:28 AM
whulsey's Avatar
whulsey whulsey is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Miami, AZ
Posts: 8,839
Total Downloaded: 65.34 MB
I have a buddy that spend a couple of years in the early 60's babysitting Corporals and Honest Johns in Germany. He said that if things got hot, everybody figured less then a minute survival. The other thing that always got me was what he said about the discussions they had over how many of the warheads would actually work. He said the conclusion on the ground was if 10% worked it would be amazing and probably less for the Soviet.
Reply With Quote
Google Adsense
  #6  
Old 05-22-2016, 01:27 PM
Mike1158's Avatar
Mike1158 Mike1158 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 3,246
Total Downloaded: 1.34 GB
I think our Chieftains were a bit better than that but our worst record for renewables consumption was 3 for 3 miles, engines that is. Not forgetting the famous flying Chieftain, off a hill for 175 metres and upside down in a field. Complete hydraulic failure when a fan belt failed, taking out the single system hydraulic line. No steering, changing gear OR braking. No casualties beyond minor fractures and bruising. Lucky? Or what.....
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:33 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Parts of this site powered by vBulletin Mods & Addons from DragonByte Technologies Ltd. (Details)
Copyright © 2007-2023, PaperModelers.com