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Old 09-15-2020, 05:08 PM
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Some of these on Ebay were evidently well taken care of, because they are vibrant. Time and care greatly effect what we see today
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Well done. A trip to a fantasy world has a lot of merit at times. Simple models with unique colors. Nice way to build a little slice of somewhere else in today's world of chaos.
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Hi All,

And thanks again for the encouraging comments.

Sorry Hobbywolfi for not getting back to you sooner, as I completely missed the restart of this thread on September 12th. Here are the first links for the three models in the Scandinavian Fantasy.

Mountain Castle, the First Model Described https://www.flickr.com/photos/esbenr...n/photostream/

Theives' Castle, the Second Model Described https://www.flickr.com/photos/esbenr/49487842638/

Cabin on a Stump, the Third Model Described https://www.flickr.com/photos/esbenr...vintagecrafts/

After you find the first page for each model given above, click the right arrow on the screen for the additional pages. And look around at the rest of the entries in this remarkable flickr album compiled by Esben Rasmussen. I hope you find other models you'd like to build.

Score and fold,

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Old 09-16-2020, 01:35 PM
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One more thing I forgot to add re the paper they're printed on... the paper used in many of these was of higher quality even for relatively cheap publications than more recent paper models. It's pretty clear from the models I've collected that the acidity was significantly higher in some more recent models—those printed in US newspapers in the 40s and 50s for example—than in some of the foreign publications that are now almost 100 years old.
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I have to disagree with you a little, Diderick. There were many different printing techniques used during the 19thc. The example you gave from Pellerin, in fact, colored their prints using stencils and watercolors. Watercolor pigments were of quite good quality at that time and hold up well. Both the colors of the older paper models and the paper itself suffered a lot from exposure to light and other abuses.

The other factor to consider is aesthetics. My impression is that the IFJ designers preferred a more subtle color palette and avoided harsh combinations of primary colors.
Hello Tom,
You are of course right about the different printing techniques. I visited the Pellerin museum a few years ago, where they have a working 'stencil type machine'. That was used for their cheapest products, which can always be recognised because of the often slightly overlapping colours, and bits of colour outside the edges of drawings. They were generally sold as 'penny prints'.
Pellerin also made colour pictures of much higher quality, with very exact fitting of colours: a number of of stones were prepared to print various colours. Of course they had to be adjusted very carefully, exactly the way more modern colourprinting was done in offset machines. Definitely a very expensive process.
I have a visit to a museum of lithography on my bucket list - there is one here in The Netherlands, which is apparently quite famous. Corona allowing, i may try next week! Will report here.

In the meantime, I found a picture to illustrate this highly sophisticated technique. It shows the five (!) stones needed to print the poster...
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In the meantime, I have visited this museum. Absolutely fascinating. The sort of lithographs we know from the papermodelling world are well made, and I now realise that the colours did not 'have' to be slightly dull - that was the choice of the designer. For this purpose they used just a few colours - so as many separate stones, probably to keep the price acceptable.
I never realised that for really top quality (glossy) prints, as many as twenty stones were used - each adding another colour or shade to the original b/w print. This made even excellent reproductions of oil paintings possible. But for instance, the very glossy and colorful Victorian Christmas cards were made the same way - as well as cigar labels etc for the top of the market! Attached a picture of the 20 small stones used for a large size cigar label (perhaps meant for display in a shop?). For the regular label, many copies were made on one stone times the number of colours wanted.
Google for Louis Prang Christmas Cards - a nice beginning to find out more about this amazing printing technique.
Sorry for the bad quality of the pitures (didn't take my camera), but the idea will be clear!
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