film of restoration Enterprise

[whulsey]

Amccombs3
Is there a method to convert those readings into Pantone or Munsell system for us old graphics people?

[Amccombs3]

Whulsey -- I'm afraid you're out of luck on Pantone, but I can check on Munsell. No promises, though. We used to have a curator that simply doted on Munsell, but I much prefer LAB because it tells you more directly how one color compares with another.

[Amccombs3]

You're in luck, Whulsey. I got Dave Wilson's color chips and the colorimeter on my bench this afternoon and got the Munsell numbers you are after. You will need to refer back to the link I listed earlier because there are important notes about the slight differences between the commercial color chips and the colors observed on the studio model. Note also that there are two grays listed for the hull. The earliest color used on the model for filming the pilot was a gray with a blue cast; the model for production filming was gray with a green cast.

These readings were from Dave's sprayouts:

Production Hull Gray-Green: H 1.1G V 6.3 C 0.6
Pilot Hull Blue-Gray: H 9.3B V 6.2 C 1.0
Yellow markings: H 8.0Y V 7.8 C 7.7
Red markings: H 3.8R V 3.6 C 8.8

These are from the Pratt & Lambert fan deck as listed in the link I gave earlier:

Light Gray: H 7.8BG V 8.1 C 0.4
Medium Gray: H 5.2Y V 6.6 C 0.5
Dark Gray: H 0.2GY V 4.8 C 0.1

And these are from the Federal Specifications fan deck:
Turbo Lift Green: H 0.3G V 4.6 C 1.1
Dorsal Aqua: H 2.9B V 5.5 C 6.2

And a couple of remarks for those unfamiliar with colorimetry: in the L*a*b* designation, L measures how light or dark the color is, and the a and b numbers are the red-green and yellow-blue axes. Munsell uses Hue (color), Value (light/dark) and Chroma (saturation). Look up "color space" for more information.

[whulsey]

Thanks much, with those I can pretty much search out the Pantone equivalents. From there its just sit down with the Pantone book and a bunch of Testors Model Master bottles and start mixing if I ever get to that project.

[Amccombs3]

In communicating with the curator, she also asked me "to correct the persistent misconception on the forum that the museum has "finished" the left-hand or port side to match the camera-facing right-hand or starboard side. As you have seen when you saw the model in person, the left hand side was never finished, nor has the Museum changed that. In fact, the museum has painstakingly re-created the wiring, opening up the holes and providing rare photographs of the non-shooting side of the model on the exhibit panels." (Source: Curator Margaret Weitekamp)

And you're welcome, Whulsey!

[airdave]

Originally Posted by Amccombs3

In communicating with the curator, she also asked me "to correct the persistent misconception on the forum that the museum has "finished" the left-hand or port side to match the camera-facing right-hand or starboard side. As you have seen when you saw the model in person, the left hand side was never finished, nor has the Museum changed that. In fact, the museum has painstakingly re-created the wiring, opening up the holes and providing rare photographs of the non-shooting side of the model on the exhibit panels." (Source: Curator Margaret Weitekamp)

If the model is presented in its "studio" form, then I am most impressed.
And I am sorry I assumed it had been "completely" restored.

I think this is how I would like to see it,
because I am just as interested in the process of making the TV show
and how the model was originally constructed, operated and how it was filmed.

I believe the (missing) 3 foot studio model was finished on both sides.
It would be amazing to have it on display beside the larger model.
Not only as the "other" model, but because it is finished on both sides.

[spaceagent-9]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/karlta...57674028292033

[whulsey]

Hey Jim, those are some cool photos. Thanks for posting the link.

[Ron Caudillo]

Originally Posted by whulsey

Thanks much, with those I can pretty much search out the Pantone equivalents. From there its just sit down with the Pantone book and a bunch of Testors Model Master bottles and start mixing if I ever get to that project.

Hey Wayne,
If you are successful to find close matches in Pantone, could you let me know (pretty please)?

I'd like to adjust the color of my TOS Enterprise. Thanks!

[whulsey]

Ron, will do but no idea when (if ever) I'll get around to that project.

Do you still need photos of the truck missile system? I may finally get a chance to get down to Pima in the next couple of months.