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Old 01-22-2021, 06:17 AM
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Some more progress.
Got all the engine nacelles Done.
Starting work on the Turret mounts.
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Old 01-22-2021, 06:59 PM
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Alright Michealgr!


Here's a couple of images that I hope help with guidance on how to build the stays and hab modules.


The model I built shows areas highlighted with red circles as having the stays penetrate through the part. (Guide 1)



If I remember correctly, these are


The missile / torpedo pods
The main bridge
The sensor module which I believe I labelled as Pod 1.


I've included an image of the blender model minus the hab modules to show how the model should look prior to attaching the hab modules (Guide 2). The stays have a red highlight on each of them. Basically this indicates that the stays are designed to penetrate the full length of the parts and are then, attached or anchored to the interior of that part on the opposite side from where they are inserted (I hope that makes sense).


Some of the parts I am sure have included interior support sections (pod1 and the missile / torpedo pods) the purpose being to make sure the angle was of the struts was correct as well as give them a little extra support.


The Hab Modules themselves are attached directly to the stays, the areas highlighted with blue rectangles / squares on my model image (guide1). The stays DO NOT penetrate the hab modules. The hab modules are just attached / fixed / glued to the ends of the stays.


The stays were designed to be the correct length, however factors such as paper weight, thickness, build skill and my general lack of attention during the experimenting phase of this (seriously I wasn't even sure if the hab modules could be held by these stays without some sort of additional supporting parts) means that the stays may need to be trimmed at the edges to allow the hab modules to attach straight and true.


(don't look to close at my model but you can see one of the stays isn't quite long enough for the job and is clearly NOT attached the hab module )


The image (guide 3) is the side profile showing the support stays for the starboard and port sides of the hab module / main hull. If I remember correctly I left two versions of this in the plans. The one I used was a single piece (highlighted in red) mounted to 1mm card then cut out and coloured using matching pencil, then trimmed as needed at the edges to fit.


In the plans they are unlabelled, but they look like the mage shown in (Guide 4)



I also left the individual stays in the plans for anyone ambitious enough to try and build this structure out of the individual parts
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Old 01-23-2021, 09:43 AM
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Another quick guide picture for you Michealgr or anyone else that may be building the model.


The Blender model I released isn't 100% right when it comes to the stay lengths that are used for the Hab Modules. Anyone using the Blender model as a make shift instruction guide for the build (looking from the front of the model) the left hand side stays are the wrong length, one set is too long and the other set is too short. The stays on the right hand side though are the correct length.


I've included a picture just to clarify which stays are the ones that may cause issue.
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Old 03-29-2021, 02:35 PM
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So last update was a couple of months ago and sadly there's a reason why I stopped updating.
Back in early February, I got up one day and my hand was hurting a lot. Almost any motion I did shot bolts of pain through my wrist. It took a while to figure out what was happening - apparently this is called a snapping tendon. I believe the pressure I applied on the area while working on all those thick cardboard pieces for the Truman must have had something to do with it. Mouse usage at work may have also contributed - as a 3d modeler I use a mouse a lot more than normal. Long story short I immediately ceased doing anything non essential with my right hand (and also switched to a vertical mouse).
Things are almost back to normal now but I'm still hesitant on going back to papercraft. I might wait another month just to be sure.
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Old 03-29-2021, 05:03 PM
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Michael, I think that you are suffering of CTS (carpal tunnel syndrome).
I'm not a doctor, I'm an IT specialist [*] (a computer programmer), so I just can talk based on my experience.

In the past I always used the mouse and with laptops I have often assumed wrong positions, the worsts are those in which you keep your forearms resting on the edge of the desk, so the edge itself presses on the tendons. After years, I started to feel pain, it was just sufficient to shake hands, lift a briefcase, wring out a sponge. I was seeing the starts for pain!

Initially I began to use a soft wrist support, the one on the picture: it's made of soft silicon and allows the wrist to maintain a wider angle. After some years I recovered about the 70% of pain-free mobility.

Then came my partner that, with "some" discussions, managed to convince me to completely abandon the use of the mouse and use the laptop track-pad. Believe me, if you configure it correctly, after some initial difficulties due to habits, after some other years I recovered at least 98,8% (in the worst days) of free-pain mobility!!!
Remember that the ones of today recognize scrolling along vertical and horizontal edge, tap in specific areas, tap and scroll with one, two, three, and some with four fingers; even pinch zoom like on a touch screen, so most actions can be associated for advanced use like in free hand drawing, photo editing, CAD, and so on.

And, please, rest your dominant forearm (better both) over a flat surface completely free from objects, not even a thick cable like that of a phone charger!!!

I don't mean you have to wait for years before returning to use your arm, you must have a looot of patience!

Take care of yourself.

[*] As a trekker, I can say: «Damn Jim, I'm a doctor, not an engineer!» Unfortunately I'm neither.
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Old 04-19-2021, 08:43 AM
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Hi Michael, how is your wrist? Did you discover what was the cause?
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Old 04-22-2021, 03:27 PM
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There's no telling what the cause was, probably wasn't any single thing, X ray and CT didn't find anything and Ultrasound came back with a finding my GP didn't buy as it had nothing to do with what the wrist-specialist orthopedic doctor found. The issue was a snapping tendon, in this case the thumb's extensor tendon - it snaps out of place and over some bony bump causing pain when it does.
It sort of went away eventually. I'm not sure how but it no longer hurts. Exerting pressure on the thumb, like using a knife to cut paper / cardboard, still feels uncomfortable quickly, though. So I'm back at it but taking it slowly, taking care to only cut and assemble a few pieces every day.
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Old 04-23-2021, 09:37 AM
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I'm glad it's resolving, I wish you can fully recover!
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Old 11-25-2021, 03:41 PM
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IT IS DONE.

It's been almost a year. I pretty much abandoned the build because the front part was quite inaccurate to the show, and truss that connected the two side pieces to the front part ( I hesitate to call it a bridge because you never know with expanse ships) were unfolded in a way that made them almost impossible to build. I thought I'd just quickly redesign and print those parts, then decided on a complete revamp of the front of the ship. Problem was, I just didn't have the energy for it. I spent month doing maybe an hour of research every second weekend, poring on the four or five photos of the Truman class you can find online and trying, and failing, to come up with a design closer to the show's. I even considered 3D printing some parts. Eventually I gave up and reverted to a design much closer to Cheesy's original with just a few tweaks and a texture more to my liking.

Well, here it is. the built quality leaves a lot to be desired but it is a complete model and it's going on the display cabinet and I don't have to see its half finished fuselage looking at me accusingly whenever I enter the spare room.
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Old 11-26-2021, 09:53 PM
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Looks fine to me. Thanks for keeping at it.
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