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Dear Cami:
Ivote for swoopie fenders, Rag top, long front end. Grin, MILES |
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Is that a window under those louvers? Or do these have the rear-view vision of a semi hauling a trailer?
I would have to think they didn't sell too many Scarabs... |
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It is funny how aerodynamic some cars were in the thirties compared to the seventies and eighties brick shaped automobiles (I am mostly referring to american cars).
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I am not sure it is getting more precise about the styling cues, but I thnik everyone agree for the late thirties and scale 1/24. That is a good starting point, we may end up with the ultimate car! After the already existing bunch of ultimate cars of course ha ha! Cami |
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Without hijacking the thread, Stout was an aircraft designer (Stout Metal Airplane Co in Detroit) that designed the Ford Tri-Motor. This was his attempt to apply aircraft design to cars using a Ford V8 rear mounted. The general agreed figure is 6 were build over several years.
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The WW II Victory Museum in Auburn, Indiana has a Tatra 87 camouflaged for use as a German Staff Car. See: ????? ?????????? ???????? |
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The concept is taking form and I have a picture in my head and made a quick sketch of the rear section based on all the ideas submitted so far. Fender mounted spare, streamlined design, fender skirt, a small tailfin on the decklid that serves as a taillight, whitewalls... The Cord 812 chassis and dimensions/proportions (more or less) seem to be a good starting point. I will do a few sketchs for the front this week-end. I do not forget the rumble seat idea, I can figure two versions of a same car. Let me know what you think! Cami |
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Cami, I like the drawing.
The aircraft you mention are all congruent to the '37-'39 period, with the Hurricane being earliest, then Spitfire, and P40 being the last of those 3, though only by a matter of a very few weeks. Hurricane was designed in late 1935, revised by mid '36, and flew circa the same time. The P40 began as the P36, and initially was little more than a liquid cooled inline engined development of an air cooled radial engined airframe. By way of the abandoned YP37 supercharging of the inline engine was tested, and in part found wanting, though the USAAC (pre USAF) foresaw little employment for supercharging in any case, believing ( in error) that high altitude (25-30,000 ft plus) combat in a future war would be unlikely. The Spitfire was more technically advanced than either the Hurricane or P40, but, despite the elegance of the airframe, had less stylistic influence in later years. Many of the car designers would have been looking at such aircraft Napier Heston Racer, the Messerschmitt 209 I (in 1936, known as the "Me.109R"), the Bugatti M100. Some would still have been heavily influenced by even more radically styled aircraft than those I have mentioned, such as the GeeBee R1, the Hughes H1, and various similar Thompsen Trophy and Schneider Cup racing aircraft. I Apologise for an error I made in mentioning the Tatra 77 and Tatra 87 in a previous post of mine. I stated 180 to 240 HP, while the Tatra site states 87 to 94 HP. Plainly, I recalled the supercharged HP figures as being the standard ones. That was an error of memory on my part. As to styling and streamlining, we should not forget the influence of the series of World Land Speed Record Cars as then existed. I refer to such vehicles as the Napier Railston, the Sunbeam 1000hp of Sir George Eyston fame, the Pierce-Arrow Golden Arrow, the first Bluebird, the Mormon Meteor III. Each of which is an example of automotive streamlining as it evolved, and each of which had discernable influence on the concept cars of the era, though less on actual production vehicles in most cases. Kind and Respectful Regards Cami, Uyraell. |
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Buick Y-Job...
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