Why Zealot wants to keep downloads - Page 11

**bf109** · #**101** 07-05-2009, 05:35 AM

and if your last name is shark , it doesn't mean you have to act like one :D

**ARMORMAN** · #**102** 07-05-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by billy.leliveld

When you invest your money in a Parking-lot, you don't automaticly own the cars parked on it , do you ? :p

Only if your name is Richard Daley and you think you are the king of Chicago.

**Stev0** · #**103** 07-05-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bf109

and if your last name is shark , it doesn't mean you have to act like one :D

No ... but when you choose a name like that for a forum as an admin your pretty much summing up that your going to be a D-Bag.

It's good to see the numbers really pick up on this forum. Next year there will be a local CON called Hal-con. I am considering creating a display to card-evangelize the hobby and we can have some more converts from plastic.

**Simmo** · #**104** 07-06-2009, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by londonbluemisty

Hi All,:D

I AM HERE!!
I have crossed over from the DARKSIDE:o
I wondered where everyone had gone......

Wayne

Ah.. great to see. Yes, it is a little quiet over there now.

**GaryPilsworth** · #**105** 07-07-2009, 11:38 PM

"You are not banned. All content is the copyrighted property of Zealot.com (including this PM you sent) Persons part of an organized attempt to disrupt, harass, or otherwise interfere with the operation of this forum are stopped from doing so to the best of my ability. Any question regarding legality should be pursued here Legal Further discussion regarding the restoration of full membership privileges are up to you."

**CharlieC** · #**106** 07-08-2009, 12:19 AM

Always thought the Zealot admin was an idiot - doesn't seem to comprehend that Zealot can't assert copyright arbitrarily over all content. They do, however, assert a licence over material on their site which means that they are respecting individual copyright and IP.

Regards,

Charlie

**FAKEnameguy** · #**107** 07-08-2009, 12:42 AM

seems to me he's in the bag for a DMCA violation, now all we have to do is find crowdgather's ISP so you designers can proceed legally.

**Stev0** · #**108** 07-08-2009, 12:59 AM

Thing is ... that user agreement is not available at the forum and when you send files to be hosted there isn't an agreement available.

I upped a file to verify this and there isn't any legal fineprint to reinforce what they are doing.

The admins don't care about anything but their cash flow. They even tolerate people asking to share SCANNED models now. One admin asked the guy to introduce himself and that's all. Great moderation/administering there.

**CharlieC** · #**109** 07-08-2009, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FAKEnameguy

seems to me he's in the bag for a DMCA violation, now all we have to do is find crowdgather's ISP so you designers can proceed legally.

Too easy:

Crowdgather - Find it on Forums resolves to 209.132.192.58

Crowdgather Inc has been assigned 209.132.192.0-255

by Alchemy Communications Inc - Los Angeles Data Center, Colocation, Managed Service, Disaster Recovery | Alchemy Communications Inc..

Alchemy provides server hosting and all the usual stuff that ISPs do.

Regards,

Charlie

**dansls1** · #**110** 07-08-2009, 07:01 AM

Ok guys - I am of the opinion that this thread has run its course. On a personal level, I want to see you great designers retain all your rights and control of distribution of your models, but as a forum admin I don't believe it's in our best interest to continue to have a public forum 'war' against them, so I'm closing this one. Further discussion of legal action should be easy enough to continue in PM's, I believe.
Thanks for understanding that PM.com is about modeling