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Old 05-25-2023, 05:51 AM
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Laurence Finston, I thank you for your help and clear explanations. I'm very shamed because I hadn't taken a look in Glossary. It is so simple...*
FRD, thank you for your interest in this thread.
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Old 05-25-2023, 08:18 AM
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It's certainly "side" since "port side" and "starboard side" are the normal terms for the sides of a boat or ship. And "fore" and "aft" for the front and back, as you probably know, and "aloft" and "below" for up in the rigging and below deck, respectively. Don't know how a normal word like "below" snuck in there.
I have actually heard the term "alow" (meaning on or below deck) in nautical use: "I can't find my marlinspike -- I've searched for it alow and aloft." The general convention seems to be that the prefix "a" denotes a direction relative to the ship: ahead, astern, alee, aweather, abeam, etc. There also seem to be some finer distinctions: "aft" means toward the stern, "abaft" means toward the stern in relation to something else (the mizzen mast is abaft the main mast), and "astern" means behind the stern outside of the ship.
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Old 05-25-2023, 08:48 AM
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[...] and "astern" means behind the stern outside of the ship.
Thank you for the information. Other members of my family sail or sailed but I never learned how and try to stay on dry land as much as possible.

When I read what you wrote about the word "astern", the beginning of the song "High Barbary" suddenly popped into my mind: "Look ahead, look astern, look the weather on the lee" (or something like that).

That song may have been among a set of 78s my father had, sung by those renowned seafarers Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger.
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Hello, gentlemen.

I need your help again. Pardon me for my importunity, please.
I don't know what the term "Bottom sweep angle" means or what the difference is between it and the term "Dead rise angle".

The context is Sailcut CAD Handbook software at The Sailcut CAD Handbook, Chapter 5, entry 5.3.3, the last two items.

I very much hope for your help. Thanks in advance.
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Hello Dane,
I don’t know the answer to your question. However, I posed the question to a site on the internet (might be risky), and this is the answer it gave me. I hope it helps. Perhaps others here can confirm whether or not it is accurate.

Dead rise angle refers to the angle between the horizontal plane and the side of the hull at any point. On the other hand, bottom sweep angle is not a commonly used term in nautical engineering. However, it is possible that it refers to the angle between the bottom of the hull and the horizontal plane at any point. This angle is also known as the transverse angle.
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Old 12-19-2023, 03:21 PM
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Michael Mash, thank you.

I think these are two "intersected" terms. Dead rise angle refers to angles on the boat's center plane and on the middle section plane. But what the second angle (the bottom sweep angle) is, I have no idea!
Could it be the angle of sweep of the planing step (or redan)?
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Hello, gentlemen.
I need your help again, and I hope this is the last time (in ABOK.... ) Help me please.
I have faced with sentence on page 400 ABOK, the first paragraph from above.
"Spray screens for launches, and also "eye screens," for accommodation ladders, were required at a time when women were less frankly bifurcated than at present. "
What mean "women were less frankly bifurcated"?
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Hello, gentlemen.
I need your help again, and I hope this is the last time (in ABOK.... )
Please feel free to ask whenever you want to.

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What mean "women were less frankly bifurcated"?
I remember this passage. It means that the fact that women had legs was formerly disguised by the skirts or dresses they wore, because trousers were not considered acceptable apparel for women. "Bifurcated" means divided into two parts. "Frankly" means in this case obviously, clearly or easily recognizable.
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Old 02-29-2024, 05:36 AM
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Laurence Finston, thank you very much.
Your help is quick, precise and very helpful for me.
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You're very welcome. I didn't need to this time, but I'm always glad of an excuse to get the ABOK off the shelf.
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