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Old 03-23-2009, 04:18 PM
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Funnels are great, aren't they, Carl? I bet you've already been looking for a ship with five or six funnels already, haven't you? To my knowledge there's only the Russian Askold with five and Jeanne d'Arc with six (I think there's also an Italian ship with six, but as far as I can remember it looks just like Jeanne d'Arc). Too bad the Askold kit has already been done a couple of times already, and the Jeanne d'Arc... Forgive me, but that's just one butt-ugly ship!

@Michael - it's Rhino3d, IMHO the perfect choice for card model design


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Old 03-23-2009, 04:28 PM
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Is this the ship you're talking about? It is strange, but I kinda like it I think.

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Old 03-23-2009, 04:39 PM
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That's bizarre - looks like an industrial plant dropped onto a ship's hull. The wikipedia entry says it had 48 (!) boilers to make 23 knots. Apparently it was used for a long period as a school ship - one wonders what was learned - "how to shovel immense amounts of coal" - "how hard it is to clean soot and ash from a 6 funnel ship".

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Old 03-23-2009, 05:37 PM
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Yeah - I think the idea was for it to be as fast as an ocean liner of the time... From the "Proceedings of the United States Naval Institute" for 1903 we learn that the Jeanne D'Arc made only 21.3 knots on her official trials, with the engines developing 30,000 ihp, and coal consumption at 1 kilogram per ihp per hour...let's see - that's 30 metric tons of coal per hour! (33 short tons).

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Old 03-23-2009, 05:44 PM
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The Jeanne D'Arc was also on the ways for a long time.

That's not the only French period ship with 6 funnels! Ernest Renan and the sister ships Edgar Quinet and Waldeck-Rousseau were armored cruisers with 6.

There were also numerous wonderful French ships with 4 funnels:

Jurien de la Gravière
Chateaurenault
Guichen
Ernest Renan
Jules Michelet
Léon Gambetta class (3)
Gloire class (5)
Dupleix class (3)
Gueydon clasd (3)

I expect to model at least one of these before too very long. None are as sleek as your little beauty though.
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Old 03-24-2009, 05:25 AM
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Back to the Connaught... I proclaimed earlier that I was to attempt working feathering paddle wheels made from paper at 1/250 scale. I now realize that I may have bitten off more than I can chew. I just made this wheel for the Anglia. It has twelve fixed floats and is 1" in diameter. It took over two hours to do just this one, and it was a royal pain in the a**. It's also kind of crooked and wobbly, not something that will rotate with any degree of precision

Gil - where are you? Help!
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Old 03-24-2009, 05:34 AM
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And it looks wonderful! Really.


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It looks pretty good to me also....
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Old 03-24-2009, 06:35 AM
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You did that in 2 hours !!!!!! looks great
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Old 03-24-2009, 07:10 AM
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Thanks, guys - It actually looks a lot straighter in the picture, which makes me look like a whiner. It must be the angle, because it's really rather crooked when you look at it side-on.

The problem is that paper has no longitudinal stiffness, like wood does. It just bends every which way. Ideally I would like to use a material that only bends one way. I could laminate it at 90 degrees and get something like plywood. This morning on the way to work I thought about suitable materials. There's paperwood, a micro-thin wood veneer, but that's viciously expensive. I also wondered if there is something made of carbon fiber, or glass fiber, perhaps? Do we have any materials experts here?


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