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Old 10-16-2014, 06:09 PM
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Help with Panel Lines on a part

OK............ I know my old math teacher warned that one day math will save your life, so don't forget....................But ai DID! And it really ain't life threatening.......

I want a formula that will allow me to draw panel line on this part............ it's not not a true cone........ when assembles the side show the top as level and the bottom is angled towards the rear of the part

I don't want to guess........ I want to be able to place a panel line that goes around the circumference at a specific location that will be level with the larger end so that I can use it for panel lines in multiple locations that will be equidistant from each another all the way around the part ............. what I've tried doesn't create a level panel line when looked at after assembly...........

I hope that this is understandable........... and please don't tell my old math teacher I forgot...........

I probably go DUH! when i'st posted, but right now it ain't happening with the ole noggin............
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Old 10-16-2014, 06:18 PM
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I'd be interested in knowing the answer to this as well.

Anyway, is cheating allowed? If I were to do that, I'd fire up my 3D app. Then I'd create that cone. Then I'd create a plane object and intersect it to the part of the cone where I'd like the panel line to be.

But I would prefer that formula approach. Much more elegant.
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Old 10-16-2014, 06:36 PM
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Well since I do a lot of recolors with already unfolded parts a formula would be much more helpful, and I really don't want to recreate a part every time........ and I've also forgotten all the BLENDER I learned and am thinking about learning Metasequoia..........
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John,

I'm going with shorter length is a percentage of the base (eg. If you are 12 pix from the left edge of the base, and the top is 25% of the length of the base, then you would put the other 12 pix X .25 = 3 pix from the left edge at the top).

That's my guess.

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I think I found the formula. It turns out that there's a mathematical term for the operation that you need to do -- Conic Sections.

Conic Section -- from Wolfram MathWorld
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OK............ I know my old math teacher warned that one day math will save your life, so don't forget....................But ai DID! And it really ain't life threatening.......

I want a formula that will allow me to draw panel line on this part............ it's not not a true cone........ when assembles the side show the top as level and the bottom is angled towards the rear of the part

I don't want to guess........ I want to be able to place a panel line that goes around the circumference at a specific location that will be level with the larger end so that I can use it for panel lines in multiple locations that will be equidistant from each another all the way around the part ............. what I've tried doesn't create a level panel line when looked at after assembly...........

I hope that this is understandable........... and please don't tell my old math teacher I forgot...........

I probably go DUH! when i'st posted, but right now it ain't happening with the ole noggin............
john
Well, I don't know if any of this would work but if you try to take the curved edge and move it up to the desired location, would that work? If any of that made sense...?
By the way, I can tell it's a 777 model. What airline are you planning?
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Old 10-16-2014, 07:27 PM
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Chris........ tried that........ no joy
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I think I found the formula. It turns out that there's a mathematical term for the operation that you need to do -- Conic Sections.

Conic Section -- from Wolfram MathWorld
Well, you and I are thinking similarly.

I think what we are trying to find is the formula for determining the parabola formed when a plane intersects an oblique cone, parallel to the shortest edge of the cone (the shortest edge is what would be the top of the aircraft).

No clue beyond that... Yet.
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Eric.......... I got lost.......but I'll keep looking at it

Gary.......???
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I think Gary may have it fixing to check.................



create a arc with a height of 25% of the straight line length
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