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Old 02-22-2013, 08:30 AM
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For those who'd like to know, what IAF models equals the Wilhelmshavener Modellbaubogen - here are the respective numbers:
IAF 43/44 Mystère IVA = WHV # 1638
IAF 54 Fouga Magister = WHV # 1630
IAF 55 MiG 19 = WHV # 1615
IAF 56 Iljushin Il 28 = WHV # 1605
IAF 58/59 Nord Noratlas = WHV # 1604
IAF 60 Hawker Hunter = WHV # 1616/1617 (later 1645/1646)
IAF 61 SAAB J-35 Draken = WHV # 1614
IAF 62 EE P1B Lightning = WHV # 1624
IAF 63 Avia 199 (Me 109) = WHV # 1809
IAF 64 8 Carrier Aircrafts = WHV # 1217 (Scale is 1/250!)
IAF 65 BOMARC (no pad) = WHV # 1609 (incl. Launchpad)
IAF 66 FIAT G 91 = WHV # 1619
IAF 67 Spitfire (Mk VIII) = WHV # 1632
IAF 68 Mirage III C = WHV # 1642
IAF 69 Bristol Sycamore = WHV # 1633
IAF 72 F-86 Sabre = WHV # 1625
IAF 73 F-100 Super Sabre = WHV # 1627
IAF 78 Fokker Dr I = WHV # 1806
IAF 79 Polikarpov I-16 = WHV # 1620
IAF 80 Hawker Sea Hawk = WHV # 1613
IAF 82 F-4 B Phantom II = WHV # 1641
IAF 83 F-84 Thunderstreak = WHV # 1626
IAF 93 P-51 Mustang = WHV # 1647
IAF 109 SAAB J 37 Viggen = WHV # 1643
IAF 115 Douglas DC-3 = WHV # 1506
IAF 120 B-58 Hustler = WHV # 1601

You may find the Wilhelmshavener models by Möwe-Verlag (Möwe = Seagull) here: Papermodels, Cardmodels, Modelkits, Wilhelmshavener Modellbaubogen, Wilhelmshaven, Bastelbogen, Papiermodelle, Kartonmodellbau, Kartonmodelle, Architektur, Schiffe, Flugzeuge
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Since many of the earlier ones are reprints of the WHV kits, why not just get the original WHV kits. They are probably better quality prints and paper. Also, consider that the early IAF magazines were printed on small paper format ( about ( approximately 7 inches wide by 9 inches tall ) and therefore the layout of the parts was different.

I personally have a few of the originals IAF kits dating back to the 60's, but paper that old probably does not behave right and a re scan is probably needed. Same with the original WHV kits. Unless the paper is fresh ( less than 15 years or so, it probably will be risky to build.

Some of the IAF magazine repainted WHV were simply to replace the original national insignia with the Israeli star and registration number as in the case of the Nord Noratlas.


See some pics here of the F-84 in Danish AF marking
Israeli Air Force magazine model aircraft-dscf8414.jpgIsraeli Air Force magazine model aircraft-dscf8415.jpgIsraeli Air Force magazine model aircraft-dscf8416.jpg

and a Nord Noratlas in West German markings.
Israeli Air Force magazine model aircraft-dscf8417.jpg

So if you are after nostalgia, then go for it. Otherwise, personally, I will choose better kits or a good repaint of some of them.

Just more info for you all.


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Old 02-23-2013, 03:50 AM
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Isaac

I see your point and take it on board thank you.
There was another designer in the mid 60's in Israel who produced some great models, very accurate and high quality colour and details. some of their models were F104, F100, a killer U2 model, and the turbo prop airliner Britania which I built and it took over my desk, that how big it was. I saw that model on the list of HWV. The one i Built was of the Israeli airline El Al. They also produced a great model of the T-55 and the U.S.S. Nautilus.
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Old 08-11-2013, 04:55 PM
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Old f-100

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Since many of the earlier ones are reprints of the WHV kits, why not just get the original WHV kits. They are probably better quality prints and paper. Also, consider that the early IAF magazines were printed on small paper format ( about ( approximately 7 inches wide by 9 inches tall ) and therefore the layout of the parts was different.

I personally have a few of the originals IAF kits dating back to the 60's, but paper that old probably does not behave right and a re scan is probably needed. Same with the original WHV kits. Unless the paper is fresh ( less than 15 years or so, it probably will be risky to build.

Some of the IAF magazine repainted WHV were simply to replace the original national insignia with the Israeli star and registration number as in the case of the Nord Noratlas.


See some pics here of the F-84 in Danish AF marking
Attachment 156813Attachment 156814Attachment 156815

and a Nord Noratlas in West German markings.
Attachment 156816

So if you are after nostalgia, then go for it. Otherwise, personally, I will choose better kits or a good repaint of some of them.

Just more info for you all.


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Old 08-17-2013, 12:48 PM
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Israeli AF Plane models

If you still have any left intact, I am willing to buy them from you.

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Old 08-17-2013, 01:25 PM
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Question Where are you located?

What are you willing to pay?

I have some dating back to the 60's , 70's and 80's.


As I said, other then nostalgia and collections, I would not waste time building them.


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Old 08-17-2013, 01:51 PM
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I believe some of these models used offered free from the iafe website. In fact if you use the Archive.org îøçá àåéøé you can see a list of the models.
Too bad that the B-2 wasn't one of those that used to be free :(
heaps on that archive site.shame they didnt do a c130
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I believe some of these models used offered free from the iafe website. In fact if you use the Archive.org îøçá àåéøé you can see a list of the models.
Too bad that the B-2 wasn't one of those that used to be free :(
warning !!!! getting a malware warning from google chrome when i attempt to veiw that iaf link
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heaps on that archive site.shame they didnt do a c130
I agree but thier Noratlas Nord is worth building.
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The C-130 Hercules aircraft have Posted in booklet No. 106-107 July 1978
I also have the B-2
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Re: IAF Kits. One that is on this list is not still available from Wilhelmshavener. The English Electric Lightning, is now one of the rarest of the rare WHV models. I have seen it come up for sale on eBay exactly once in the last decade (and it was not me that won that auction). But here it is, preserved like a prehistoric fly in amber, in the original UK livery.

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For those who'd like to know, what IAF models equals the Wilhelmshavener Modellbaubogen - here are the respective numbers:
IAF 43/44 Mystère IVA = WHV # 1638
IAF 54 Fouga Magister = WHV # 1630
IAF 55 MiG 19 = WHV # 1615
IAF 56 Iljushin Il 28 = WHV # 1605
IAF 58/59 Nord Noratlas = WHV # 1604
IAF 60 Hawker Hunter = WHV # 1616/1617 (later 1645/1646)
IAF 61 SAAB J-35 Draken = WHV # 1614
IAF 62 EE P1B Lightning = WHV # 1624
IAF 63 Avia 199 (Me 109) = WHV # 1809
IAF 64 8 Carrier Aircrafts = WHV # 1217 (Scale is 1/250!)
IAF 65 BOMARC (no pad) = WHV # 1609 (incl. Launchpad)
IAF 66 FIAT G 91 = WHV # 1619
IAF 67 Spitfire (Mk VIII) = WHV # 1632
IAF 68 Mirage III C = WHV # 1642
IAF 69 Bristol Sycamore = WHV # 1633
IAF 72 F-86 Sabre = WHV # 1625
IAF 73 F-100 Super Sabre = WHV # 1627
IAF 78 Fokker Dr I = WHV # 1806
IAF 79 Polikarpov I-16 = WHV # 1620
IAF 80 Hawker Sea Hawk = WHV # 1613
IAF 82 F-4 B Phantom II = WHV # 1641
IAF 83 F-84 Thunderstreak = WHV # 1626
IAF 93 P-51 Mustang = WHV # 1647
IAF 109 SAAB J 37 Viggen = WHV # 1643
IAF 115 Douglas DC-3 = WHV # 1506
IAF 120 B-58 Hustler = WHV # 1601

You may find the Wilhelmshavener models by Möwe-Verlag (Möwe = Seagull) here: Papermodels, Cardmodels, Modelkits, Wilhelmshavener Modellbaubogen, Wilhelmshaven, Bastelbogen, Papiermodelle, Kartonmodellbau, Kartonmodelle, Architektur, Schiffe, Flugzeuge
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