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Old 07-05-2008, 08:55 AM
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As long as we are on the subject how about cupolas and finial.

A small turret, or sub-turret on a larger one, is called a cupola. The term cupola also describes rotating turrets that carry no weapons but instead sighting devices, as in the case of tank commanders. A finial is an extremely small sub-turret or sub-sub-turret mounted on a cupola turret.

The fact that they sound like parts of a fort or castle is no accident.

The type of shield a gun has is not the determining factor as to whether it is a turret (thus open turret). A gun system that pierces the ships deck is a turret. When removed from the ship, aircraft, tank or building it looks like a turret.
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Old 07-05-2008, 09:57 AM
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Nice discussion here!

"Gun enclosure" was actually the term that I was searching for since I have read that is the term properly applied by the Navy to U.S. destroyers.

Here are some more images depicting the loading arrangement on Devastation. With its original very short guns it could be loaded from ports within the shell of the armored cover. The one image is sort of from behind the turret showing that there were mirrored loading positions to port and starboard.


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Old 07-05-2008, 11:45 AM
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You can see from the pictures that I still need to add cupolas to the tops of the turrets.

Here are some more screen captures. A lot of the detail is fake... err, done from enlightened insight.


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Old 07-05-2008, 12:02 PM
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Great thread ! I'm learning a lot here.
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Old 07-05-2008, 01:35 PM
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GB: Great work. I'm amazed by the amount of detail you have worked in.
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Old 07-05-2008, 03:25 PM
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Carl -- Although I learn more about the ship (and your informed speculations about it) from the aerial views, the waterline view is REALLY impressive. Don
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Old 07-05-2008, 06:09 PM
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Education as well as a beautiful model I like the low angle shot as well.

It does not look faked to me.
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Old 07-27-2008, 05:44 AM
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Some updates. It might not look like much progress but the construction of these pieces was tougher than most... particularly the boat frames.

Turret was built and then rebuilt after Jim Baumann pointed out an error. Fortunately I was able to reuse the top since it is still not fastened on.

Latticework of the frames is something of a night mare and I tried it first with doubled card and notches at intersections. It is just too flimsy. So this version uses tripled card and clean cuts with butt gluing. It is no where near finished since not only are there numerous columns below but strips a planking above and platforms dependant underneath.


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Old 07-27-2008, 06:27 AM
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Superb job Carl
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Old 07-27-2008, 07:45 AM
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That is a beautiful gun Carl. The level of detail throughout your model is incredible.

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