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Old 08-21-2022, 09:42 AM
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My 1:1200 Asashio destroyer design - working up.

Thinking about it, I realized that having done the Shiratsuyu/Shigure, I could use the gun and torpedo turrets, etc., and just do the bigger - 3x2 5" guns at the start of the war and during Guadalcanal - Asashio class to properly fill out my Japanese task force set I want to finish.
There of course needs to be a white spot on the after deck for Y turret.

The I-boat/sub hull( curvature)s are giving me fits, but I have a simplification idea in mind for those, so ....

And what about the Sendai/Jintsu light cruisers/destroyer division leaders??
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Old 08-21-2022, 02:07 PM
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Looking forward to your completed model.
ps And for your book.
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Old 08-21-2022, 10:55 PM
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Thinking about it, I realized that having done the Shiratsuyu/Shigure, I could use the gun and torpedo turrets, etc., and just do the bigger - 3x2 5" guns at the start of the war and during Guadalcanal - Asashio class to properly fill out my Japanese task force set I want to finish.
There of course needs to be a white spot on the after deck for Y turret.

The I-boat/sub hull( curvature)s are giving me fits, but I have a simplification idea in mind for those, so ....

And what about the Sendai/Jintsu light cruisers/destroyer division leaders??
Always interested in your ships. The similar IJN 3-stack light cruisers (Kuma et al) have long been favorites of mine.
Wayne
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Old 08-22-2022, 04:25 PM
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Yes, certainly looking forward to these as well. I have sworn I will finish a second Shiratsuyu before moving on to your next one, Lou, I had better get cracking. A 1/72 A6M2 is dividing my attention I fear.

Doug
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Old 08-24-2022, 03:18 AM
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First cousins: Shiratsuyus and Asashios

I thought this might catch your interest, Doug.
An Asashio is basically the exact same build as a Shiratsuyu. I'll try to dimension one at 1:700 for you.
I'm still test-building it. Then on to finish the I-boats.

I have our USN Office of Naval Intelligence wartime recognition manual for Japanese merchant vessels and really should do a freighter, tanker, and transport as well. Paying so much for plastic kits of merchant ships is disagreeable.

I wonder if they converted tankers into fleet oilers like we did.
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Old 08-27-2022, 11:31 AM
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I have our USN Office of Naval Intelligence wartime recognition manual for Japanese merchant vessels and really should do a freighter, tanker, and transport as well. Paying so much for plastic kits of merchant ships is disagreeable.
The ONI set of drawings for Japanese merchant vessels is very basic and lacking the same level of details seen on the ONI drawings for Allied vessels. You might want to check out this section with Japanese merchant vessels of my Ship Design Drawings collection on the Webarchive.
Here you'll find 25 sets of drawings of 1920's and 1930's Japanese merchant vessels, and during WW2 about 95% of those vessels were used by the Japanese Navy or Army as tender (for submarines, destroyers or seaplanes), armed merchant cruiser, transport or hospital ship

Sample: Heian Maru, ex ocean liner, sunk as submarine tender in Truk Lagoon



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I wonder if they converted tankers into fleet oilers like we did.
Yes they did, check out the Kawasaki Type tanker



The Japanese even converted tankers to dry cargo vessels......
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Old 08-28-2022, 07:09 AM
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Wow. Thanks, FM.

Interesting that they would convert tankers into dry cargo freighters. At the start of the war, we had a strategic shortage of oilers which would have been reason not to send our old battleships to save the Philippines. The old battlewagons were serious fuel hogs.
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Ah, logistics! I always remember back playing "Task Force 1942" on the computer, and wondering why Japan never sent the Yamato or the Musashi to just go down the slot and tear things up, thinking it a case of severe hesitation.

Then more recently, I can not remember what book I was reading, but it alluded to the sheer amount of fuel needed to move them anywhere, and how that fuel was needed/could be more economically used by other warships, and it all started to make a bit more sense.

Again, as always looking forward to any and all of these. My second Shiratsuyu continues to make slow progress alongside my 1/72 A6M2.

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Old 11-30-2022, 06:34 AM
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Doug, recent wargames include Japan's fuel constraints, even after taking the Dutch East Indies with its oil fields. Here is a fast playable free print-and-play Pacific War game of mine containing such, which starts in Spring 1942, Pearl Harbor being a given: Pacific War Naval Chess Game
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