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Old 05-20-2021, 08:01 PM
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Current go to software for designing kits?

So I have been out of this for a bit. What is everyone using nowadays for designing in 3d and unfolding? I saw someone posted about blender for artists which I just downloaded

One thing that has always stymied me is actually coloring the model with a livery or whatnot. Can you do it on the 3d model or have to unfold it first? Are there any tutorials out there that kind of encompass the process?
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Old 05-20-2021, 08:12 PM
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So I have been out of this for a bit. What is everyone using nowadays for designing in 3d and unfolding? I saw someone posted about blender for artists which I just downloaded

One thing that has always stymied me is actually coloring the model with a livery or whatnot. Can you do it on the 3d model or have to unfold it first? Are there any tutorials out there that kind of encompass the process?
Thanks!
Chris
Hi Chris,

It has been awhile.

Several years ago someone here did an ebook on blender designing.

Here is the link: http://www.papermodelers.com/forum/s...archid=4469654

Here is another link with more info about unfolding-blender objects: Blender Program

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Old 05-20-2021, 08:43 PM
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Wow - that is an amazing e-book! I will have to spend some time (or a lot) perusing that. based off what I am seeing you cannot really color the kits prior to unfolding. So they must get unfolded (I havent figured if that can be accomplished in blender for artists yet) then colored in gimp or inkscape. I am pretty decent with gimp. but havent touched inkscape in years. 10 maybe heh.

That leads me back to one of my great conundrums.... if a kit is already unfolded how the heck do you apply colors consistently across the parts. Even if its a fan out (think like an engine cowl for a WWI biplane) if you want a design on there it could have many pieces that have to line up perfectly.

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Wow - that is an amazing e-book! I will have to spend some time (or a lot) perusing that. based off what I am seeing you cannot really color the kits prior to unfolding. So they must get unfolded (I havent figured if that can be accomplished in blender for artists yet) then colored in gimp or inkscape. I am pretty decent with gimp. but havent touched inkscape in years. 10 maybe heh.
Like many free/open/libre software, Blender is evolving at a tremendous pace. Although the mentioned ebook is clearly the result of a lot of effort, very useful and especially interesting for integrating a lot of otherwise disjointed information, it's already obsolete in some regards. I recommend you check blender.org - Home of the Blender project - Free and Open 3D Creation Software for features of recent versions. In particular, I think tools for directly painting on the 3D model without UV unwrapping are available.

BTW Inkscape has also progressed a lot. The jump from 0.48 to 0.92 versions increased speed, reliability and fidelity by light-years. I didn't notice much progress in features from 0.92 to current 1.0.2, but it's still a joy to use (no, unfortunately I don't think the ability to snap-join edges by rotating on a common vertex is implemented yet).
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Gimp should do you fine for colouring in.

If you have not really coloured in before, send me a PM when you start and I can give you a few working tips that will help you.

"if a kit is already unfolded how the heck do you apply colors consistently across the parts. Even if its a fan out (think like an engine cowl for a WWI biplane) if you want a design on there it could have many pieces that have to line up perfectly."

Buildings and armour are easy because of the design and straight lines.

But I do not know of a method to do this with any certainty for aircraft and curved objects. So I do my best guess and then print (even if just in B and W), and then partially build (or get someone else to) in an effort to see if the part colouring aligns. Painful!!!! I know a lot of designers do this as well.

I would be interested to hear if anyone has developed an easy method to apply patterns so they line up on curved parts, without the need to build as a check!
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In particular, I think tools for directly painting on the 3D model without UV unwrapping are available.
See e.g. what I mean in part 3 of this video tutorial:
Default Cube Owl Tutorial 1/4 | Blocking - YouTube
starting after about 4 minutes.
Some cool features are automatically painting on both sides of the model and automatically smoothing curved strokes.

Current go to software for designing kits?-blendertutorial_owlfromdefaultcube3-4.jpg
Note: yes, it's unwrapped at the leftside view, but I think it's more for easier visualization.
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ok - that is quite cool. definitely worth looking into! If you can take a logo and paste it onto a curved fuselage that would be cool! I didnt get to watch each moment but skipped through it - making some dinner
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Hi Chris,

It has been awhile.

Several years ago someone here did an ebook on blender designing.

Here is the link:

Here is another link with more info about unfolding-blender objects:

Mike
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