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Old 11-22-2015, 05:15 AM
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Thanks. I went with the wingspan when I resized the 3-views to make/resize them so the Shahak is indeed 7 cm while the Phantom is closer to 9 cm (9.1 or 9.2, same for Ojimak's RF-4E). The Nesher is 7.2 or 7.3 cm (boom excluded).

At 7.2/7.3 cm (boom excluded) Ojimak's Fishbed (printed at 30%) generally fits the MiG-21PFM & Bis 3-views I resized to 1:200.

edit: I'm also surprised the Su-7 and Su-17 are that big compared to the MiG-21.
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Old 11-23-2015, 01:04 PM
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Carlos Hi- the SU-7 is much longer and bigger than the mig-21.
The SU-7 can be compare in size to the f-105D .
Here are photos of the 3.

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Old 11-23-2015, 01:10 PM
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Carlos Hi- the SU-7 is much longer and bigger than the mig-21.
The SU-7 can be compare in size to the f-105D .
Here are photos of the 3.

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Old 11-23-2015, 01:56 PM
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Thanks, here is a pic of the Su-17/Su-7 with a few MiG-21.

Mig 21 gpm 1:48-fishbed-fitter-01.jpg
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Old 11-25-2015, 05:49 AM
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mig -21 vs F-8 Crusader Photos

The mig 21 fought in Vietnam against the F-8 Crusader.
Here are some photos of the two.

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Old 11-25-2015, 10:02 PM
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mig 21 vs F-8 Crusader Photos

Some more photos of the Fishbed and Crusader.

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Old 11-26-2015, 12:57 PM
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mig -21 in Vietnam

The mig 21 entered the war theater in 1966 as russian production new mig 21F.
The mig 21 was much faster than the sub sonic mig 17 which numerically was
the most utilised by the NV. So the NV developed doctrins of fighting for the mig 21.
The mig 21 was fast but lacked the tight turn ability of the mig 17 , therefore
the best way to engage the american planes was to make a pass at high speed
and release the A2 attol missile from six o'clock of the american fighters which
usually were thuds F-105 that were in a bombing stages above NV.
In this way the mig 21's were able to down few thuds but the Thud never downed
mig 21 and had 27.5 mig 17 kills most of them with the Vulcan 20 mm gun.
The Phantom and the F-8 Crusader were the main adversaries of the 21 though.
The Phantom with the powerfull radar had the Aim 7 sparrow as a long range missile
and the sidewinder IR missile as the short range missile. At this time the Phantom
didn't carry internal 20 mm gun and could only carry a gun pode under the belly point.
The Crusader could cary 2-4 sidewinders and had 4 20mm guns.
The Crusader had the best kill ratio against the migs 1:6 while the F-4 Phantoms had only
1:2 kill ratio. Therefor the F-8 Crusader was nicknamed the "mig master " .
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Old 11-26-2015, 09:03 PM
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The mig-21 vs F-105 Thud Photos

The mig-21 is known to have a few F-105 kills.All in all the Thud kill ratio against the migs
Is 27.5 mig 17 vs 23 Thuds- 1.2 : 1. The Thud never had a mig 21 kill in vietnam though.
Only the F-4 Phantom and the Crusader were victorieus against the mig 21.
Here are photos of the two in 1:48. scale.

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Old 11-26-2015, 11:54 PM
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MIG 21 TWO SEATER MONGOL 1: 48 - Photos

More photos of the mig 21 mongol.
The mongol was produced in big numbers
and was cwidely used by operators of the mig 21.
Some have reached private owners in the US.
The model here represent Hungarian air force
paint scheme and is 1:48 scale .

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Old 11-27-2015, 01:20 PM
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Mig 21Fishbed vs F-5 e Tiger

The mig 21and the f-5e are considered very simillar but in the real world they are not .
The F-5 series was developed from the start with air to ground capability and air to air.
The mig 21 was designed as a local interceptor from the outset and the air to ground
capability came as after taught. If we compare the two head to head we get the following:
The F-5e has a better operational range and can carry 3000kg payload which is 1000kg
more then the mig 21 bis. In the local interception role the mig 21 has more powerfull engine
and better accellration and also radar guided missiles for longer range. In a close turn dogfight the F-5e has better manuevarability but not by a big margin and the pilot level
can be the main factor here.
Both types fought in the Iraq Iran 80's conflict with mixed results.
Also the F-5A fought in the ogaden battle between Ethiopian to Sudanian
pilots with 8 mig 21PF that were shut down.
The F-5e was used to simulate the Mig 21 in the US as aggressor squadrons
and this will be described in the next chapters.
Here are the two side by side in 1:48 scale.

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